House of the Day: 1418 Pacific Street
Will somebody please put this listing out of its misery and buy it! The brownstone at 1418 Pacific Street in Crown Heights has been on the market for more than three years by our calculations. It was an Open House Pick in April 2007 when it was asking $999,999. The price now is down to…
Will somebody please put this listing out of its misery and buy it! The brownstone at 1418 Pacific Street in Crown Heights has been on the market for more than three years by our calculations. It was an Open House Pick in April 2007 when it was asking $999,999. The price now is down to $700,000, which has to be getting close to the market-clearing number given the amount of original architectural detail and the proximity to the Brooklyn Children’s Museum. What’s it gonna take?
1418 Pacific Street [Brooklyn Properties] GMAP P*Shark
“If people find Brooklyn Heights too boring, whatever. Doesn’t mean I like it any less.”
sounds like you’re just boring 😛
I should be clear, however, that it is one thing for someone who has been there to say they personally felt unsafe (or bored (BH), or annoyed by too many kids and parents (PS), etc.). But that is very different from someone who has never lived there (or even so much as visited) from making sweeping generalizations such as saying it’s an anti-gay neighbourhood.
Biff, exactly. one can feel it’s unsafe. MM and I just want to have our say that it’s safe.
I’ve been to Crown Heights a number of times and never had a problem. But people have a right to their opinion. If they feel unsafe, then they feel unsafe. If people find Brooklyn Heights too boring, whatever. Doesn’t mean I like it any less.
“but overall it IS an unsafe neighborhood. ESPECIALLY for gay men.”
I realize I am arguing with a dense brick wall, but that is patently NOT TRUE. Do you for a moment think that the thousands of people who live in Crown Heights, most of whom are law abiding family members, as well as single people, would willingly and knowingly invest their hard earned time and money and the safety of their children and loved ones, in a neighborhood that was unsafe? NO ONE, black, white, rich or poor is going to do that. Are you implying that EVERYONE here is so enamoured by cheap rent, good architecture or transportation convenience that they would risk their own lives and the lives of their loved ones, gay or straight, to live in a neighborhood that was unsafe? Are the thousands of gays who live here, many for generations, that’s GENERATIONS, would stay if they thought they were going to be spat on, beat up or talked badly to whenever they went outside? Would they really all be so masochistic as to put up with hate and abuse just to have slamming woodwork, or a great apartment, or room for their pets? REALLY? Do you believe people are that stupid?
I’ve stated my case. For most of the people who choose to live here, this is a vibrant and friendly neighborhood with a live and let live attitude. Many newcomers are astonished by the friendliness of their neighbors, and are very happy here. Yet there are those who were unfortunate enough to have bad experiences. I am not doubting their experiences or their fears. Yet to paint the neighborhood only as negative is stereotyping at its worst and does a big disservice to those of us, gay and straight, who not only love it here, CHOOSE to settle down here, and are doing our best to make it welcoming, safer and better for everyone. If it’s not for you, it’s not for you. That does not make it unsafe.
MM, Rob also says living on EARTH is lame. dont let him bait you. even if he wants to come to the hood, he would need directions repeated 10 times and he still would get lost.
Rob and 11217’s gay friends stories doesnt over write the positive experiences we have of the hood. if we keep scores, I dont doubt we’ll crush them on the scoreboard. Push comes to shove, I take the word of someone living in the hood over someone who visits or never been there.
YES but would you still feel comfortable walking around a town that MANY incidents like that? please, you know you wouldn’t. youd never go back! sorry but your cant paint every single thing with a PC paintbrush.
*rob*
I think I know a family that lives in those projects (I think it’s those projects, I haven’t been). I don’t think they’re thrilled to be there, but they can afford the rent. And yes, they work. A lot.
This would be a great house to get, IF it was cheap enough to buy and then renovate. At $700K it’s still not. I realize it is a lot of house for that money, but a lot of house means a lot of expenses.
Every time I go to the Children’s Museum I want to move to Crown Heights — but the school thing gives me pause. I think the elementary next door to the museum is pretty okay? And the Crown is good? Anyone know anything else? (For elementaries.)
Oh, and rob, if I walked through some red neck town and a couple of yahoos called me names, I’d later say a couple of jerks in the town called me names. I wouldn’t say the whole town was full of racists, or that the whole town called me names.
That’s the difference between generalization and specificity. There are some anti-gay a-holes in Crown Heights. That is a far cry from “Crown Heights is anti-gay”. Let’s be perfectly clear on that.