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>the paper that hires people who make up stories whole sale. Remember the Blair incident?
Wow, is the way you think you can counter an argument? 1) NYT times hired Blair 2) Blair made up stories … ergo, “NYT hired Blair TO make up stories”. Hold the applause.
cmu,
I only used your own method of hasty generalization against you.
now you condemn me for it.
obviously you got my point. 😉
dona, How long have you lived in your house/neighborhood? Just curious, can’t recall.
6 years. But what a 6 years, it has been. So much stuff has happened and these nice old people watched me doing battle, a little like a one-armed paper hanger, trying to transform a tottering wreck of a house filled with lunatics into a pretty nice place with solid citizen nice tenants in it. This while holding down a job with a lot of travel and becoming de-facto general contractor of a work team of clowns. The neighbors were very supportive in the low key, funny way that is the absolutely nicest — like how somebody came up to me laughing about the time I flipped out at the contractor on my stoop. That’s ANOTHER story.
“I mean, it’s incredible that 50% of the US does not believe in evolution! The comparable figure for Europe is lower (less?) than half that.”
CMU – anybody who says they “believe” in evolution is not practicing science. Belief is the foundation of religion.
Science gathers evidence and advances possible explanations. Unfortunately, the theory of evolution has become a religion on to itself and science is not really taught anymore.
Even when a theory is proven (which is basically never) there is always the possibility of new evidence, or new ideas that fit the existing evidence equally as well as the old theory.
Science does not tell us the “truth”. That is the clergies job.
cmu,
here’s a theoretical problem with your argument,
you are presumably arguing from a sort of
larger government, re-distributive, social justice
perspective.
Does it bother you at all that when these theories have been translated into the real world, they have in many cases, resulted in genocide on a scale unknown to prior history.
eg. Stalin killing 25-30 million Russians during the Great Terror.
eg. Mao killing 30-35 million Chinese during the “re-education” of the people.
Quote:
Surely the liberals here will tell us these people don’t represent their views. And surely they understand that fringe conservatives likewise do not represent the conservative mainstream.
OK, re the Tea Party/Republican Party candidate for governor of NY:
Such is the case with the images and videos forwarded by Mr. Paladino to a wide variety of people. The public should know about these mailings, and Mr. Paladino should give a full, thoughtful explanation of why he trafficked in such filth.
Example: A photo showing a group of black men trying to get out of the way of an airplane that is apparently moving across a field. The caption reads: “Run niggers, run.â€
Example: A doctored photo of President and Mrs. Obama showing the president in a stereotypical pimp’s costume holding the hand of the first lady, who is dressed as a prostitute in a grotesquely revealing outfit.
Example: A video clip of a nude couple engaged in intercourse with the title: “Miss France [expletive].†Mr. Paladino characterized it as “a keeper.â€
Example: An image showing a woman performing a sexual act on a horse.
There are many more. Mr. Paladino has acknowledged forwarding the e-mails, which he said was evidence of “poor judgment†on his part. But that’s not sufficient. The e-mails raise legitimate questions about the fitness of the sender to hold the highest office in the state, and Mr. Paladino should feel an obligation to put those questions to rest.
GUH-ROSS!!! you cat ladies are hosting biohazardous animals in your kitchen!
Your Own Kitchen Probably Wouldn’t Pass Health Inspection Times reporter Henry Alford got the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene to send an inspector to his kitchen. (Your tax dollars at work, saving journalism!) After a thorough review, inspector Beth Torin told Alford his kitchen’s so unsanitary she wouldn’t eat in it. And this after he spent a day cleaning it! Violations included Alford’s washing his hands in the kitchen sink, a too-warm refrigerator, and a broken meat thermometer. But the biggest transgression was his cat, which “can blithely go from litter box to tabletop or kitchen counter, transporting bacteria.” In the end, Torin has a heart and says, “I’ll give you the cat if you swear you’ll wash your hands in the bathroom. Then I’d come over. You’ve got to eat somewhere.”
>the paper that hires people who make up stories whole sale. Remember the Blair incident?
Wow, is the way you think you can counter an argument? 1) NYT times hired Blair 2) Blair made up stories … ergo, “NYT hired Blair TO make up stories”. Hold the applause.
cmu,
I only used your own method of hasty generalization against you.
now you condemn me for it.
obviously you got my point. 😉
rob – double air sign with the libra moon – interesting…..
ok guys am outta here – off to my job interview – talk to you all tomorrow!
By cobblehiller on September 29, 2010 2:00 PM
dona, How long have you lived in your house/neighborhood? Just curious, can’t recall.
6 years. But what a 6 years, it has been. So much stuff has happened and these nice old people watched me doing battle, a little like a one-armed paper hanger, trying to transform a tottering wreck of a house filled with lunatics into a pretty nice place with solid citizen nice tenants in it. This while holding down a job with a lot of travel and becoming de-facto general contractor of a work team of clowns. The neighbors were very supportive in the low key, funny way that is the absolutely nicest — like how somebody came up to me laughing about the time I flipped out at the contractor on my stoop. That’s ANOTHER story.
“I mean, it’s incredible that 50% of the US does not believe in evolution! The comparable figure for Europe is lower (less?) than half that.”
CMU – anybody who says they “believe” in evolution is not practicing science. Belief is the foundation of religion.
Science gathers evidence and advances possible explanations. Unfortunately, the theory of evolution has become a religion on to itself and science is not really taught anymore.
Even when a theory is proven (which is basically never) there is always the possibility of new evidence, or new ideas that fit the existing evidence equally as well as the old theory.
Science does not tell us the “truth”. That is the clergies job.
D’Souza is obviously of Portugese ancestry, likely from Goa, so i suspect there are members of the upper crust of India who are not accepting of him
cmu,
here’s a theoretical problem with your argument,
you are presumably arguing from a sort of
larger government, re-distributive, social justice
perspective.
Does it bother you at all that when these theories have been translated into the real world, they have in many cases, resulted in genocide on a scale unknown to prior history.
eg. Stalin killing 25-30 million Russians during the Great Terror.
eg. Mao killing 30-35 million Chinese during the “re-education” of the people.
“legion- you aren’t smart enough to argue like MM or I”
Why is this at all controversial? It’s 100% true, and everyone here knows it.
Quote:
Surely the liberals here will tell us these people don’t represent their views. And surely they understand that fringe conservatives likewise do not represent the conservative mainstream.
OK, re the Tea Party/Republican Party candidate for governor of NY:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/opinion/28herbert.htm
Such is the case with the images and videos forwarded by Mr. Paladino to a wide variety of people. The public should know about these mailings, and Mr. Paladino should give a full, thoughtful explanation of why he trafficked in such filth.
Example: A photo showing a group of black men trying to get out of the way of an airplane that is apparently moving across a field. The caption reads: “Run niggers, run.â€
Example: A doctored photo of President and Mrs. Obama showing the president in a stereotypical pimp’s costume holding the hand of the first lady, who is dressed as a prostitute in a grotesquely revealing outfit.
Example: A video clip of a nude couple engaged in intercourse with the title: “Miss France [expletive].†Mr. Paladino characterized it as “a keeper.â€
Example: An image showing a woman performing a sexual act on a horse.
There are many more. Mr. Paladino has acknowledged forwarding the e-mails, which he said was evidence of “poor judgment†on his part. But that’s not sufficient. The e-mails raise legitimate questions about the fitness of the sender to hold the highest office in the state, and Mr. Paladino should feel an obligation to put those questions to rest.
GUH-ROSS!!! you cat ladies are hosting biohazardous animals in your kitchen!
Your Own Kitchen Probably Wouldn’t Pass Health Inspection Times reporter Henry Alford got the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene to send an inspector to his kitchen. (Your tax dollars at work, saving journalism!) After a thorough review, inspector Beth Torin told Alford his kitchen’s so unsanitary she wouldn’t eat in it. And this after he spent a day cleaning it! Violations included Alford’s washing his hands in the kitchen sink, a too-warm refrigerator, and a broken meat thermometer. But the biggest transgression was his cat, which “can blithely go from litter box to tabletop or kitchen counter, transporting bacteria.” In the end, Torin has a heart and says, “I’ll give you the cat if you swear you’ll wash your hands in the bathroom. Then I’d come over. You’ve got to eat somewhere.”