anybody who says they “believe” in evolution is not practicing science. Belief is the foundation of religion.”
Very well said. I would go on to point out that the theory of evolution and belief in God are not mutually exclusive (I was careful to say believe in God, not belief in everything that is said in the book of Genesis).
Dont have time for the long answer, but the short answer is that the Catholic Church worked this problem through at least a century ago and its position has been further refined, led by Jesuit scholarship, rejecting both theories of evolution and intelligent design.
lech, ditto- thanks. I wasn’t quite sure what you meant and I was going to argue your own argument as to why it’s not surprising. 🙂
DCB- cmu using “believe” has nothing to do with religion. I believe the sky is blue – especially since I can see it- but that has nothing to do with faith. You’re taking him to task over semantics, not accuracy.
As for “Science does not tell us the “truth”. That is the clergies job. “, well. let’s just say THAT is as far from the truth as it gets. The clergy does not tell us the “truth.” They declare their beliefs as the truth.
second,
it is a legitimate question to cmu,
as he brings up the argument for such
societies by his words.
I’m asking if there is a legigimate
concern or acknowledgement of the
historical facts surrounding such
failed societal structures, in his view.
bxg: I wish there were more Republican moderates and centrist out there who are willing to work for the good of the country
NOW we’re getting to the crux. The moderates (Snowe and whats-her-name excepted) are too cowed to buck the extremists. Did not used to be this way. Most major reforms were passed by sound bipartisan majorities.
legion… come here. Sit by me *patting chair* Have a hankie. 🙂
By lechacal on September 29, 2010 2:27 PM
By DeadCatBounce on September 29, 2010 2:20 PM
anybody who says they “believe” in evolution is not practicing science. Belief is the foundation of religion.”
Very well said. I would go on to point out that the theory of evolution and belief in God are not mutually exclusive (I was careful to say believe in God, not belief in everything that is said in the book of Genesis).
Dont have time for the long answer, but the short answer is that the Catholic Church worked this problem through at least a century ago and its position has been further refined, led by Jesuit scholarship, rejecting both theories of evolution and intelligent design.
Genesis wrote a book? I thought they just wrote songs.
lech, ditto- thanks. I wasn’t quite sure what you meant and I was going to argue your own argument as to why it’s not surprising. 🙂
DCB- cmu using “believe” has nothing to do with religion. I believe the sky is blue – especially since I can see it- but that has nothing to do with faith. You’re taking him to task over semantics, not accuracy.
As for “Science does not tell us the “truth”. That is the clergies job. “, well. let’s just say THAT is as far from the truth as it gets. The clergy does not tell us the “truth.” They declare their beliefs as the truth.
cobble,
first of all,
Shouldn’t you be working?
second,
it is a legitimate question to cmu,
as he brings up the argument for such
societies by his words.
I’m asking if there is a legigimate
concern or acknowledgement of the
historical facts surrounding such
failed societal structures, in his view.
bxg: I wish there were more Republican moderates and centrist out there who are willing to work for the good of the country
NOW we’re getting to the crux. The moderates (Snowe and whats-her-name excepted) are too cowed to buck the extremists. Did not used to be this way. Most major reforms were passed by sound bipartisan majorities.
Lech, I wasn’t trying to make a political point, I was simply pointing out a NUT JOB. You’re such a g’damn pill.
You got it, DIBS! This guy follows the college kid around! He’s stalked him at his home!!
bxgrl,
you’re just being mean to me. 🙁
for no good reason.
CGar, I just attached you AGAIN on that COTD.