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  1. we all benefit. Once full legislation takes effect.
    Since, if lose your job someday…for whatever reason…
    you’ll be able to get health insurance (after cobra)…
    even if had health problems(pre-exisiting conditions).

  2. legion, darling, [did you take the Xanax yet?] You’ve been paying for things for a long time. Socialist programs that help other people. Yep. You’ve been paying in since Day 1. Get over it. It’s a good thing. Just tell yourself you’re helping other people get what you already have. It’s not as painful as you are making it out to be.

  3. cobble,
    here’s the difference in practical terms,

    I grew up in a country where if I didn’t
    want to pay for something I didn’t have to.

    now, I’m being told, that unless I pay for
    this, I will be penalized (no homo).

    I didn’t sign on for that, last I heard,
    in fact that’s the very reason there was
    a revolt in Boston about 230 years ago.

  4. “what concerns me is a shift towards European
    style socialism.”

    legion, legion, legion. First of all, we have been, for quite sometime, a far more socialist country than any right winger would care to really contemplate. The fact that we are trying to finish something that was started quite sometime ago is not an indication that we are ‘going socialist’, it was a socialist program to start with, dear!!

    Furthermore, Greece’s problems have FAR and AWAY more to do with the credit default swap mess than their health care system.

  5. “Have faith in your own nation’s values not Europe’s please.”

    We do- and that’s why we voted for Obama and want this legislation. This isn’t majority tyranny. This is how democracy works.Tyranny is “the last president borrowing billions of dollars to pay for a personally motivated and unnecessary war ” Meanwhile, in Europe people can get medical care without being made to feel they are useless meatbags out to destroy the country.

  6. bxgrl,

    I have no doubt that you care about the common good and that’s why I admire you as well,
    I just try to call the problems out as I see them.
    I have gone on record here to state that I like the way the President is handling Afghanistan and Pakistan thus far, I applauded him on his shift in view about Atomic energy as well and I also believe that medicine has to be fixed.

    the problems arise when things are being pushed through without bipartisanship in the least.
    even Bush worked with Kennedy on no child left behind.

    there are ways to fix medicine, giving Landreu 300 million dollars and exempting Nelson from medicaid costs while the rest of the nation pays is not the way to do it. Even Nelson’s own consitutents are revolting about this.

  7. MM–you are definitely one of the people who would appear to benefit from this legislation and that should cause a major hurray from all of us–as well as nationally. Think of all the people like yourself who will have a new path towards coverage and peace of mind. I am pumped.

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