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You have also remember the other issues employers are constantly struggling with is women’s roles as mothers. You see a lot of employers offering female employee family based incentives like work-from-home but it’s not always so cut and dry. Some employers are still somewhat hesitant to promote women, especially young women because of their fear of starting a family. More and more women are requesting to work from home a day or two a week but it’s taking employers some time to get with the modern times of telecommuting. The other fear they have is a new mother deciding suddenly that she does not want to continue with her career so she quits. So a company can invest a lot in a woman at the early stages of her career only to be holding the bag in the end. Which could also attribute to the resentment.
That has happened in our group. And I recall a female attorney telling me a story about how one of the partners had a talk with her about her “future” and advised that if wanted to see herself grow at the firm that he would suggest that she does not have children for the next 10 years or so. BS if you ask me but this what we are dealing with.
my current direct supervisor female is very nice and sensible. Her new boss (and his right-hand man who is same level as she) I feel are pretty sexist and don’t listen to her ….she needs another guy to say same thing before they hear it.
God, looking back it’s no wonder why I like to drink so much!
I’m so grateful (emotionally not financially) to be out of that industry. Whewwww….
Chicken;
Peter principle, no doubt. However, what AA did was to turbo-charge the process.
For me, I guess it would be nice to date someone who made more money so I could stop doing a job I don’t particularly enjoy once the loans are paid off. I guess men feel the same way and it’s not fair to keep them doing a job they don’t want to just because of the expectation that they make more money.
Posted by: jessibaby at January 19, 2010 12:10 PM
Jessi, you just gave me hope that not every woman on our tribe member dating sight is a gold digger. Brownie points for you.
I was brought in and left before they were TARP, I only mentioned it so as to give a hint as to the industry and atmosphere.
It’s funny, I kinda learned on the way up in NYC but when it came to ATL the men absolutely operated in a old school boys club mentality. Everything I thought I knew about how to effectively (and nicely) manage people got turned on it’s ear. I felt like I had to relearn everything. Even just simple things like the one guy who was a few rungs down from me who when I had to have a conference call to ask why deadlines were being blatantly ignored chose to condescend me in front of the whole group by saying, “Listen be a doll and relax with those deadlines, you’re not winning any pals down here being such a stickler”. WTF? I could here a bunch of the guys chuckling when he said it too.
It made me cringe inside. I just never expected to hear such things. I think all things considered I managed to handle it well and did regain control, and respect, much to their dismay but yeah, I came home and cried more than a few nights before I did.
“What used to happen, therefore is that if a woman came along who was competent and stayed with it, she would be moved up the fast track into a position where she was in over her head, due to lack of experience. It bred alot of resentment among the males.
Posted by: benson at January 19, 2010 12:48 PM”
Peter principle – happens for men as well but just happens to be more visible for women.
Arkady;
Exactly right. I worked for AT&T Bell Labs for almost 15 years, and that is exactly what happened years ago.
To begin with, very few women go into engineering and many leave after a few years, as they find the culture kind of stifling. What used to happen, therefore is that if a woman came along who was competent and stayed with it, she would be moved up the fast track into a position where she was in over her head, due to lack of experience. It bred alot of resentment among the males.
g10, you were stressing big time when you had the house. now that you’re comfy, you’re nit picking and second guessing selling the house. can’t say long term which decision will turn out to be better but I see you’re pretty happy right now so am thinking you made a good decision selling the place