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“Some of you need to step up to the podium and accept some accountability”
“Some of the richest people in the world came from backgrounds of poverty and working class.”
“and [people at] the most utter levels of poverty HAVE gotten the pie, and large pieces of it too”
I am collecting raise-yourselves-up-by-your-bootstraps cliches. Please send all future submissions to me at cmu-the-communist@aol.com
The above three receive 7, 8 and 8.5/10 respectively.
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Rob, let’s you and I go trick or treating this year.
YES! i am totally up for that. i have gone trick or treating a few times as an adult, and if you make people laugh, you can get some fun stuff!! i went with a friend one year, snuck into a few buildings, and wound up getting MONEY, condoms, candy, random food, etc. i went as a hobo and she just went as herself, no costume.
You can’t compete with slave labor and you shouldn’t. What Ken is describing is the “race to the bottom” that was caused by the exporting of American jobs overseas where conditions can be extremely dangerous. Read about the Triangle Fire of 1911 and then we’ll talk about facts and figures. People in China, Bangladesh and Indonesia work in buildings with chained fire exits and sometimes aren’t even allowed to leave AFTER work. When they’re in their late teens or early 20’s in many cases their eye sight is gone from working in the dark and their backs are permanently bent from stooping over tables for 18 hours at a time. Washed up old men and women at 23.
arkady – thanks! – I am just so moved by some of their needs – sorry perhaps it’s my naive ignorance, but why isn’t the gov’t giving them toothbrushes and kleenex etc?
>>If the goods made overseas (Honda, Toyota, Sony, etc, etc, etc) are better then only a fool would buy inferior American products.
it is not the buying of foreign goods that is unfair. what is unfair is exporting of jobs and the rich benefiting inordinately from their stock holdings along with dividend tax cuts but that money did not come back into the economy in the form of job re training or the creation of new and dynamic industries. That is what is unfair. The rich took the money and kept it. Some bought brownstones in Park Slope.
But what is true is that people from “everywhere” “all socioeconomic levels” and the most utter levels of poverty HAVE gotten the pie, and large pieces of it too.
Where are the statistics to back you up? How come the gap between the rich and poor is the widest since WW 2?
Posted by: stevieb at October 29, 2009 1:08 PM
I really can’t believe that you’re a writer. You have no ability to comprehend what I wrote, do you.
All I’m saying is that many have. Many people posting here today, myself included, came from backgrounds that were not wealthy and not even middle class, yet they have done great things for themselves.
Some of the richest people in the world came from backgrounds of poverty and working class.
Net worth: $2.5 billion
Born in rural Mississippi to a poor unwed teenaged mother, and later raised in an inner city Milwaukee neighborhood, Winfrey was raped at the age of nine, and at fourteen, gave birth to a son who died in infancy.
“Some of you need to step up to the podium and accept some accountability”
“Some of the richest people in the world came from backgrounds of poverty and working class.”
“and [people at] the most utter levels of poverty HAVE gotten the pie, and large pieces of it too”
I am collecting raise-yourselves-up-by-your-bootstraps cliches. Please send all future submissions to me at cmu-the-communist@aol.com
The above three receive 7, 8 and 8.5/10 respectively.
“I’ve become a member of the Union League Club of Philadelphia”
Congrats, Dave!
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Rob, let’s you and I go trick or treating this year.
YES! i am totally up for that. i have gone trick or treating a few times as an adult, and if you make people laugh, you can get some fun stuff!! i went with a friend one year, snuck into a few buildings, and wound up getting MONEY, condoms, candy, random food, etc. i went as a hobo and she just went as herself, no costume.
*rob*
You can’t compete with slave labor and you shouldn’t. What Ken is describing is the “race to the bottom” that was caused by the exporting of American jobs overseas where conditions can be extremely dangerous. Read about the Triangle Fire of 1911 and then we’ll talk about facts and figures. People in China, Bangladesh and Indonesia work in buildings with chained fire exits and sometimes aren’t even allowed to leave AFTER work. When they’re in their late teens or early 20’s in many cases their eye sight is gone from working in the dark and their backs are permanently bent from stooping over tables for 18 hours at a time. Washed up old men and women at 23.
That my friend is why unions exist.
arkady – thanks! – I am just so moved by some of their needs – sorry perhaps it’s my naive ignorance, but why isn’t the gov’t giving them toothbrushes and kleenex etc?
“LOL x 5000. i bet if you looked hard enough you could find that samsung lct tv for 100 bux in bed stuy ;)”
ROB!! Do you WANT to get yelled at!? LOL
>>If the goods made overseas (Honda, Toyota, Sony, etc, etc, etc) are better then only a fool would buy inferior American products.
it is not the buying of foreign goods that is unfair. what is unfair is exporting of jobs and the rich benefiting inordinately from their stock holdings along with dividend tax cuts but that money did not come back into the economy in the form of job re training or the creation of new and dynamic industries. That is what is unfair. The rich took the money and kept it. Some bought brownstones in Park Slope.
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If I were to buy a Samsung LCD TV now in BestBuy made in Malasya, I would pay around 1,200.
LOL x 5000. i bet if you looked hard enough you could find that samsung lct tv for 100 bux in bed stuy 😉
*rob*
But what is true is that people from “everywhere” “all socioeconomic levels” and the most utter levels of poverty HAVE gotten the pie, and large pieces of it too.
Where are the statistics to back you up? How come the gap between the rich and poor is the widest since WW 2?
Posted by: stevieb at October 29, 2009 1:08 PM
I really can’t believe that you’re a writer. You have no ability to comprehend what I wrote, do you.
All I’m saying is that many have. Many people posting here today, myself included, came from backgrounds that were not wealthy and not even middle class, yet they have done great things for themselves.
Some of the richest people in the world came from backgrounds of poverty and working class.
http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-rags-to-riches-stories.php
Also, look at most sports celebrities.
How’s this for a story:
Oprah Winfrey
Net worth: $2.5 billion
Born in rural Mississippi to a poor unwed teenaged mother, and later raised in an inner city Milwaukee neighborhood, Winfrey was raped at the age of nine, and at fourteen, gave birth to a son who died in infancy.
FIND A NEW AGENDA.