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Shouldn’t take much to install it. Not sure what the relevance is between the window and the brick building… I would do it. Call me at 347-276-6528 Levi SoHoAppliances

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santos | 8 years and 5 months ago

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santos | 8 years and 5 months ago

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santos | 8 years and 5 months ago

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Hi my name is santos, I’m  carpenter  work in wood, install stair, railings, pocket door and
Repair of interior stairs, floor repair ,
Install crown molding, base, door trim and door replacement.
New window and new entry door installation
Siding installation
My number is (347) 701 0635 …pliniosanto25@gmail.com

resident2 | 8 years and 5 months ago

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I would look into finding someone to properly restore the existing windows.
Strip off/sandblast all the old paint etc, and then refinish with a good rust inhibiting or similar paint. Weather strip and weld if needed. But the old original windows will probably be much better for the long run than any budget minded replacement.
Of course if money is no object then there are many custom order companies and contractors that can create a similar quality style and quality window.
If you are restoring rather than replacing you will not have to worry about the conflicting information that you will get about the current code. And it will be conflicting!

douglasmix | 8 years and 5 months ago

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@EJR: Thanks for all this info! I didn’t know that today’s fireproof windows did not require chicken wire anymore (we had been casually led to believe otherwise and being complete newbies, didn’t know otherwise.) Apologies to daveinbedsty! It’s good to know that the wire may not be required. I actually like the vintage look of chicken wire, but if there are other fireproof alternatives out there, we’d definitely like to look at them. As to the glass, I think our main concern, although the charm of old glass is considerable, is just replacing the frosted glass with clear glass, to let in more light, and if they can be more energy efficient=bonus!

re: stripping the frames. Having them removed and stripped offsite is a brilliant idea! One that hadn’t occurred to us. Since we’re not going to be doing this until the spring, when it’s warmer, we could just cover the open window holes with plastic or something (and child guards) and avoid the whole lead paint abatement issue. You’re right in that it might end up being as if not more expensive than completely new windows, but the issue of having a historically correct result (not that we’re landmark or anything—far from it!) might indeed be worth it.

Thanks!

EJR | 8 years and 5 months ago

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I am no expert on fire codes or window glass, but I am not sure whether today’s fire-rated glass is as attractive as the vintage panes. I don’t think they make chicken wire glass anymore except for certain decorative applications. There is also something to be said for the natural imperfections of older glass.

With respect to restoration, there are two options, I suppose. You could have it done on-site by a contractor licensed to work with and abate lead paint, but what I was really thinking of was having the entire windows removed, brought to a workshop, stripped and rebuilt. This is probably just as, if not more, expensive than replacing the windows, but the finished product may be more aesthetically pleasing than replacements. They may not be as energy efficient, however.

That said, I don’t particularly have an recommendations for this work, unfortunately.

douglasmix | 8 years and 5 months ago

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Thanks for the ideas!

@arkady: Will definitely check that out.

@daveinbedstuy: I should have mentioned that we want to replace the frosted glass with clear glass, to let in more light, but we’d like to keep the overall 1938 feel of the design. I believe we do have to stick with wired glass for the fire code. It makes the glass less likely to shatter in event of fire.

@EJR: We’ve definitely haven’t ruled out restoration. We’ve only just begun this process but I think perhaps we’re afraid of having the frames completely stripped of decades of paint because of the lead paint issues. We have several little kids in the building and the lead paint would, we presume, lead to all kinds of abatement issues. But at this stage we don’t know. It would be lovely to be able to keep the frames and the historical hardware and just put in new glass. Do you know of any restoration companies you could recommend?

Again, thanks all!

EJR | 8 years and 5 months ago

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Have you considered exploring restoration/refurubish options in addition to completely windows? If you like the look of this glass, it may be hard to replace and a full restoration may be an interesting option.

daveinbedstuy | 8 years and 5 months ago

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You should be able to find a large number of modern alternatives to this style fabrication. Why does it have to be frosted wire-impregnated glass anyway?

Arkady | 8 years and 5 months ago

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I’d look at companies that do the ‘chicken coop’-style skylights. They could fabricate the frames & do the glass work & installation.

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Email me at brooklynmaterials at gmail if interested.

mezzogrl | 8 years and 6 months ago

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Very interested.

stickerhappy | 8 years and 6 months ago

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Sorry, Just reposted photo link above

stickerhappy | 8 years and 6 months ago

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[IMG_6911](//muut.com/u/brownstoner/s3/:brownstoner:jj1a:img_6911.jpg.jpg)

BobMarvin | 8 years and 7 months ago

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Someone linked to this old thread on a newer Forum thread today and I noticed that I had written three years ago that I’d look into enrolling. I did try but had a run-around for months and ended up abandoning the effort. From others’ reports I guess I saved money that would have gone for worthless “protection”.

a2chitect | 8 years and 7 months ago

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I would not recommend this. Steel fabricators are usually not in the business of making windows, nor can they warrant such work. All of the thermal issues mentioned above will become a problem over time. HOPES windows makes a thermally broken steel window that will probably achieve the look you want, but you will pay more.

jcarch | 8 years and 7 months ago

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You are correct that – if you use very large glass lites – you’ll minimize the thermal losses through that conductive steel frame. But you’ll still feel the chill in winter around those frames, and wherever you do have steel, you’ll get condensation on the inside faces of the steel that will run/drip down onto the wall/floor. Over time, you’ll have minor water damage to those areas.

jcarch
———————–
James Cleary Architecture

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> @biglebowskinyc
> Am I missing something?

No. That is what I assumed you originally meant but should have spelled out. Which would be fine.

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hmmm….my understanding is that he would would be making large steel frames to fit exactly into the walls he is building and then install custom, measured double-glazed window panes. Basically, it would be a thin rim of steel holding in 3 glass panes approx 7’x3′, as well as a door of the same size. From what I’ve read, the thermal properties of this set-up should be fine since it is mostly uninterrupted double-glazed glass. Am I missing something?