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Benson, the statistics are also there to demonstrate that driving cars can kill you. It is absolutely foreseeable that making Ford cars will lead to many deaths, even if it is driver error that is the immediate cause of each accident. Should Ford have to pay every time someone dies?
(stay out of this one slopey, we both know that we both know all of the arguments on both sides of this one…)
“How about this: whatever you think about that Ok law, it was passed by freely-elected representatives (many of whom are women) in a democracy.”
How about this: It is forcing a woman to have something shoved up inside her body that she doesn’t want. and even worse- its sanctioned by the state. Sounds more like ascism than democracy.
RF- I am not equating Spitzer or Gingrich with DSK. I am pointing out for all our smugness regarding French attitudes toward the rape of women, we’ve got a few hypocrisies of our own. Trust me- I know the difference between arrogance and sexual assault. And I still say forcing a woman to have a vaginal ultrasound against her will is the equivalent of state mandated rape. Ask someone who is forced to have one whether or not she feels violated.
I think there’s a difference between having an affair, hiring a hooker, and raping a motel maid.
Two of those are consensual, even if you can point to specific instances where there is a big power difference between the parties, or where you could cite aspects of that behaviour as part of a pattern of being a jerk toward women.
Which is to say you could have an affair or hire a hooker without being a sexist pig. If you rape a hotel maid (or anyone else) you’re a criminal dirtbag.
“wasn’t he kinda made into some kind of hero for getting his cock sucked by an intern in the white house?”
No, Rob, he came pretty close to getting impeached, and the investigations, hearings, and carrying on cost us millions of dollars, and forests of paper, and unredeemable hours of time that should have been spent on better things.
Not saying he wasn’t a dog of the first order, and a huge disappointment in that regard, but the hypocrisy running amok amongst members of Congress and the Senate is legendary, since it has since come out that the loudest voices calling for Clinton’s dead body in the street, figuratively speaking, were at the very same time, also cheating on their wives, or defrauding the gov’t. Newt Gingrich among them.
I believe it Arkady. When something bad happens to you in America, you look around for some deep pockets to sue. It makes me want to vomit.
One time I got really bad whiplash when a car I was driving was hit from behind by another car (I am *not* saying rear ended). Some woman came running up telling me she would testify when I sued. I told her to go fuck herself.
Come on. The statistics are there to demonstrate that that design is faulty. I’m not talking about “pain and suffering” nonsense. I’m not talking about making some ambulance-chaser rich. I’m talking about applying for $20 for the damage to my property.
I think that the DSK situation is not equivalent to Spitzer, Gingrich, or even the vaginal ultrasound requirement. This woman was doing her job, following procedure, and, assuming the allegations are true, she was attacked and physically violated. Spitzer and Gingrich were (and are) despicable but that’s not the same as sexual assault and attempted rape.
Benson, the statistics are also there to demonstrate that driving cars can kill you. It is absolutely foreseeable that making Ford cars will lead to many deaths, even if it is driver error that is the immediate cause of each accident. Should Ford have to pay every time someone dies?
(stay out of this one slopey, we both know that we both know all of the arguments on both sides of this one…)
“How about this: whatever you think about that Ok law, it was passed by freely-elected representatives (many of whom are women) in a democracy.”
How about this: It is forcing a woman to have something shoved up inside her body that she doesn’t want. and even worse- its sanctioned by the state. Sounds more like ascism than democracy.
RF- I am not equating Spitzer or Gingrich with DSK. I am pointing out for all our smugness regarding French attitudes toward the rape of women, we’ve got a few hypocrisies of our own. Trust me- I know the difference between arrogance and sexual assault. And I still say forcing a woman to have a vaginal ultrasound against her will is the equivalent of state mandated rape. Ask someone who is forced to have one whether or not she feels violated.
“The statistics are there to demonstrate that that design is faulty.”
Can I sue Mr. B for poor website design?
I think there’s a difference between having an affair, hiring a hooker, and raping a motel maid.
Two of those are consensual, even if you can point to specific instances where there is a big power difference between the parties, or where you could cite aspects of that behaviour as part of a pattern of being a jerk toward women.
Which is to say you could have an affair or hire a hooker without being a sexist pig. If you rape a hotel maid (or anyone else) you’re a criminal dirtbag.
“wasn’t he kinda made into some kind of hero for getting his cock sucked by an intern in the white house?”
No, Rob, he came pretty close to getting impeached, and the investigations, hearings, and carrying on cost us millions of dollars, and forests of paper, and unredeemable hours of time that should have been spent on better things.
Not saying he wasn’t a dog of the first order, and a huge disappointment in that regard, but the hypocrisy running amok amongst members of Congress and the Senate is legendary, since it has since come out that the loudest voices calling for Clinton’s dead body in the street, figuratively speaking, were at the very same time, also cheating on their wives, or defrauding the gov’t. Newt Gingrich among them.
Is there a vaginal muffler to help women who suffer from vaginal ultrasounds?
I believe it Arkady. When something bad happens to you in America, you look around for some deep pockets to sue. It makes me want to vomit.
One time I got really bad whiplash when a car I was driving was hit from behind by another car (I am *not* saying rear ended). Some woman came running up telling me she would testify when I sued. I told her to go fuck herself.
Lech;
Come on. The statistics are there to demonstrate that that design is faulty. I’m not talking about “pain and suffering” nonsense. I’m not talking about making some ambulance-chaser rich. I’m talking about applying for $20 for the damage to my property.
I think that the DSK situation is not equivalent to Spitzer, Gingrich, or even the vaginal ultrasound requirement. This woman was doing her job, following procedure, and, assuming the allegations are true, she was attacked and physically violated. Spitzer and Gingrich were (and are) despicable but that’s not the same as sexual assault and attempted rape.