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  1. Staten Island Rapid Transit got the old subway trains. In the 60s and early 70s, they had these old (but cute) trains with leather straps for hanging on and woven cane seats. I can’t remember how many pairs of stockings I ruined getting ripped on that cane. Hmmm….. I wonder if I can sue.

    One time I got off the subway and I scaped my top of my foot on a huge bolt which was sticking out of a steel construction beam on the platform. I got a nasty cut and at that time I did not think litigiously at all. I called up the MTA (this was pre-311) to tell them about the experience to have them address it, and fix it so nobody else would get hurt. They were a riot. “Ah right, so we’ll send you a form to sue. What’s your address.?”
    I never did anything, but the MTA is routinely sued.

  2. What I’m saying is that people should take affirmative personal responsibility for keeping themselves out of trouble. Don’t just bumble around the world and blame someone when something goes wrong. Look before you sit down. Have the situational awareness and spatial reasoning skills to know that the armrest will fuck up your pocket.

    This is a classic case of bad design with intermediate cause. Making the seats that way means more ripped pockets, but only because humans are dumbasses.

    Oh and bfarwell, was the design a complete surprise to you after you bought? Did you not have an opportunity to look and see that it was crappy new construction? Was the crappiness hidden from you?

  3. “Suing the MTA for $20 is just ridiculous”

    I did not sue the MTA. I wrote them a letter, explaining what happened, and attached a copy of the receipt. They promptly sent me a check for $20. It was a normal business transaction.

  4. bfarwell@10:54, well said. I think a lot of discussion confuses the “consensual” part. This DSK guy traversed the whole continuum of being a jerk, but what he did in NY was a violent crime. The French are freaked out because they feel defensive and they are embarrassed for the guy they were going to elect President and embarrassed for themselves.

    There really was some outrageous commentary from some of their politicians – this guy Jack Lang, his buddy and former Minister of Culture in France, said “nobody died.”
    And it was a little “troussage de domestique”. Hello?
    Forced sex with the help.

    One thing we can be proud of here is that we know the difference between being a seducer and a rapist.

  5. Suing the MTA for $20 is just ridiculous. If this was causing you a more severe injury than your $20 pants bill, okay, class action whatever. But this is just ridiculous.

    Although it is a nice reminder that good design is a good idea. You know, like designing buildings to take advantage of natural light and ventiliation. Like they did in those old buildings.

    Which is why I’m suing new construction for being crappily designed and making people run their AC and lights excessively, to the tune of billions of dollars.

  6. Lech;

    It is difficult for me to argue this – I’m not a lawyer. However, it seems to me that you’ve made a big jump in logic here. I am not arguing correlation, which is the case you are making wrt that Ford situation. I’m arguing that this is a well-isolated situation in which it has been proven that a design defect is the cause of the ripped pockets. Moreover, I’m talking about a small claim for direct damage to my property – nothing more or less. To me, it is basically the equivalent to going to small claims court.

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