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My one comment on the topic – there are America-haters on both sides. The difference is that while those on the right role-play being big tough soldiers in some remote part of Idaho, those on the left (Noam Comsky and Michael Moore, for instance) are feted at cocktail parties in liberal precincts.
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it’s really only the right wing nutjobs that exhibit profound hate for gays, blacks, mexicans and any other minority group that has escaped my mind at the moment.
I am not making any inductive leaps from my experience last night about liberals in general being self-loathing or hating the US. REALLY, NOT my point. I was referring to anybody that was a fan of that particular guy. I actually thought of all the PLUSAs who comment here and I KNOW that they would have found this guy really offensive and alienating.
“I guarantee that even the most liberally oriented PLUSAs would be offended and/or confused by his comments. ”
Excuse me but what makes you assume liberals are more prone to hate America? Are you saying those of us here who happen to be to the left hate this country? Because you would be very very wrong.
Most of the racists I know (and I have plenty in my family) try to rationalize it and will use all sorts of pseudo-statistics and pseudo-science to show that they are not really racists and are just stating natural truths.
The difference between them and the liberals is that they don’t have public lectures on the topic and for the most part don’t try to publish in the national media.
“benson has brought this subject up before. it’s really only the left wing liberal nutjobs who exhibit this profound hate for America.”
Absurd. And flat out wrong.
What MOST of us left wing liberals hate is the thought of an America, the country we love as much as anyone else, and have given our lives to defend, as much as any right winger, turning into a theocratic, authoritarian, Orwellian big-brother, capitalist machine, which cares only about power, money, and those with the same.
My one comment on the topic – there are America-haters on both sides. The difference is that while those on the right role-play being big tough soldiers in some remote part of Idaho, those on the left (Noam Comsky and Michael Moore, for instance) are feted at cocktail parties in liberal precincts.
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it’s really only the right wing nutjobs that exhibit profound hate for gays, blacks, mexicans and any other minority group that has escaped my mind at the moment.
that’s a joke, right?
*rob*
Smorgasburg thread is up.
Are any of you really going to go to this?
I am not making any inductive leaps from my experience last night about liberals in general being self-loathing or hating the US. REALLY, NOT my point. I was referring to anybody that was a fan of that particular guy. I actually thought of all the PLUSAs who comment here and I KNOW that they would have found this guy really offensive and alienating.
“I guarantee that even the most liberally oriented PLUSAs would be offended and/or confused by his comments. ”
Excuse me but what makes you assume liberals are more prone to hate America? Are you saying those of us here who happen to be to the left hate this country? Because you would be very very wrong.
Most of the racists I know (and I have plenty in my family) try to rationalize it and will use all sorts of pseudo-statistics and pseudo-science to show that they are not really racists and are just stating natural truths.
The difference between them and the liberals is that they don’t have public lectures on the topic and for the most part don’t try to publish in the national media.
“a theocratic, authoritarian, Orwellian big-brother, capitalist machine, which cares only about power, money, and those with the same. ”
And worse than any of this: they are opposed to landmarks preservation!!!!
“capitalist machine, which cares only about power, money, and those with the same.”
At least have the decency to thank them for paying 98% of the tax revenues for the rest to live off of.
“benson has brought this subject up before. it’s really only the left wing liberal nutjobs who exhibit this profound hate for America.”
Absurd. And flat out wrong.
What MOST of us left wing liberals hate is the thought of an America, the country we love as much as anyone else, and have given our lives to defend, as much as any right winger, turning into a theocratic, authoritarian, Orwellian big-brother, capitalist machine, which cares only about power, money, and those with the same.