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The only other comparable system in the world, by size, is Tokyo. They have a braduated fare system, the platforms are impeccibly clean and the stations offer all sorts of food and other services. The cars are ALWAYS on time and they are impeccibly clean but the latter may be more of a cultural difference. Cheapest fare for shortest distance is Y120
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I find I’m the opposite: because I’ve seen how well public transportation can run in other cities, New York stands out as having particularly dirty stations, poor service, etc.
you know, you could go back to the north american utopia known as canada ya know :-/
donatella, what Denton said about buildings with bike rooms.
etson, I don’t disagree with you on New York fares being cheap relative to a lot of other cities. And I think the distances one can travel on the subway for $2.25 are amazing. But I do have a problem when the fare keeps getting higher and the service you get for the higher fare keeps shrinking.
I occasionally see a kid that’s asking for a swipe at Bed Stuy. I know there are security camers on the ceilings focused on the turnstiles but what can they really do??? It does look like the kids don’t want to jump the turnstile.
“I guess I’m not so critical because I’m not from here.”
I find I’m the opposite: because I’ve seen how well public transportation can run in other cities, New York stands out as having particularly dirty stations, poor service, etc. HOWEVER, I fully understand that it’s unfair to compare a city like New York, with its enormous and older public transportation system, to a smaller city with a newer system and/or far fewer trains, stations, etc.
The only other comparable system in the world, by size, is Tokyo. They have a braduated fare system, the platforms are impeccibly clean and the stations offer all sorts of food and other services. The cars are ALWAYS on time and they are impeccibly clean but the latter may be more of a cultural difference. Cheapest fare for shortest distance is Y120
In 1985, fare was $0.90. That equates to $1.79 in 2009 dollars with inflation. Again, fares have risen more than inflation.
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I find I’m the opposite: because I’ve seen how well public transportation can run in other cities, New York stands out as having particularly dirty stations, poor service, etc.
you know, you could go back to the north american utopia known as canada ya know :-/
*rob*
“Well, ishtar and dh, you pick the year and I’ll let you know what the fare increases should have been given the rate of inflation.”
Okay – 1985. from the stories i hear about the subways in 85 – service is much better today.
donatella, what Denton said about buildings with bike rooms.
etson, I don’t disagree with you on New York fares being cheap relative to a lot of other cities. And I think the distances one can travel on the subway for $2.25 are amazing. But I do have a problem when the fare keeps getting higher and the service you get for the higher fare keeps shrinking.
I occasionally see a kid that’s asking for a swipe at Bed Stuy. I know there are security camers on the ceilings focused on the turnstiles but what can they really do??? It does look like the kids don’t want to jump the turnstile.
I grew up in the Bay Area, Biff.
The one and only time I took the L to Williamsburg I bought some churros on the platform. They were really awful.
“I guess I’m not so critical because I’m not from here.”
I find I’m the opposite: because I’ve seen how well public transportation can run in other cities, New York stands out as having particularly dirty stations, poor service, etc. HOWEVER, I fully understand that it’s unfair to compare a city like New York, with its enormous and older public transportation system, to a smaller city with a newer system and/or far fewer trains, stations, etc.