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what happens to someone who jumps the turnstile? and if you jump over the turnstile what are the chances of getting caught?
ive wondered about that too. it’s funny when i first moved to nyc, about a year after living here a citation (summons?) and a ticket? was sent to my grandmother’s address in jersey!!!!!!! she called me and was like um WHAT did you do? i was like i have no clue someone must have stolen my jersey ID at the time!!! she wound up writing them a check, that was nice of her. is that even how it works now?
like if i jumped the turn style now wouldnt they arredst me?
“weren’t there essentially several different independent systems in the city?”
Yes, 2 of which were privately owned pre-1940. The IRT and BMT systems were acquired by the city in 1940 after they went bankrupt. IND was built by the city.
“DH, is it the L that has maps showing you exactly where the trains are? Infuriating when you’re waiting and waiting and have no idea what’s going on because there’s no announcement and where the next train might be.”
Yeah – certain L stations (mine at Bedford Ave does) has a computer screen in the ticket booth that shows the entire route and the positions of the trains. Along with the countdown timers it’s pretty useful.
We’ll probably never know what it really costs to run our transit systems. The MTA has been keeping 2 sets of books for years. That said, service, no matter how bad is is getting now, is nowhere as bad as it was in the 1970’s.
There was no air conditioning in existence, just open windows and fans. If the fans didn’t work, you were dead. In the winter, half the cars didn’t have heat. Some had so much heat, you couldn’t sit in the metal seats, it was like sitting on an electric burner.
Every car had grafitti all over it, inside and out. They didn’t even try to remove it, as it would be replaced the next day.
I remember seeing rats in the cars every once in a while, as no one ever swept out the trash, and there was food everywhere.
There were hardly any police assigned to the cars themselves. Since they were a separate agency, as were housing cops, there were always turf wars between the three agencies, to the detriment of the people.
It was so much worse then. Not saying it can’t be better now, because it should, and we have better technology and ways of doing things. But just remembering the bad old days makes me want to hug a transit worker.
I don’t thin comparing a college degree in and of itself to a tradesman is a fair comparison. I have no problem with tradesman making more money than most people I know with a college degree.
That’s fair, dibs. It’s tough to have a discussion and create a logical bases for your stand point when one isn’t clear about what they mean or what they’re referencing.
Perhaps the number of people on the subways is the same as it was a few years ago but the cars just seem more crowded due to an increase in leg spreaders and obese riders.
quote:
am serious:
what happens to someone who jumps the turnstile? and if you jump over the turnstile what are the chances of getting caught?
ive wondered about that too. it’s funny when i first moved to nyc, about a year after living here a citation (summons?) and a ticket? was sent to my grandmother’s address in jersey!!!!!!! she called me and was like um WHAT did you do? i was like i have no clue someone must have stolen my jersey ID at the time!!! she wound up writing them a check, that was nice of her. is that even how it works now?
like if i jumped the turn style now wouldnt they arredst me?
*rob*
“weren’t there essentially several different independent systems in the city?”
Yes, 2 of which were privately owned pre-1940. The IRT and BMT systems were acquired by the city in 1940 after they went bankrupt. IND was built by the city.
“DH, is it the L that has maps showing you exactly where the trains are? Infuriating when you’re waiting and waiting and have no idea what’s going on because there’s no announcement and where the next train might be.”
Yeah – certain L stations (mine at Bedford Ave does) has a computer screen in the ticket booth that shows the entire route and the positions of the trains. Along with the countdown timers it’s pretty useful.
We’ll probably never know what it really costs to run our transit systems. The MTA has been keeping 2 sets of books for years. That said, service, no matter how bad is is getting now, is nowhere as bad as it was in the 1970’s.
There was no air conditioning in existence, just open windows and fans. If the fans didn’t work, you were dead. In the winter, half the cars didn’t have heat. Some had so much heat, you couldn’t sit in the metal seats, it was like sitting on an electric burner.
Every car had grafitti all over it, inside and out. They didn’t even try to remove it, as it would be replaced the next day.
I remember seeing rats in the cars every once in a while, as no one ever swept out the trash, and there was food everywhere.
There were hardly any police assigned to the cars themselves. Since they were a separate agency, as were housing cops, there were always turf wars between the three agencies, to the detriment of the people.
It was so much worse then. Not saying it can’t be better now, because it should, and we have better technology and ways of doing things. But just remembering the bad old days makes me want to hug a transit worker.
ishtar, where are you from?
I don’t thin comparing a college degree in and of itself to a tradesman is a fair comparison. I have no problem with tradesman making more money than most people I know with a college degree.
That’s fair, dibs. It’s tough to have a discussion and create a logical bases for your stand point when one isn’t clear about what they mean or what they’re referencing.
If commercial bldgs must allow for bike parking, then should also be the Ft. Greene brownstones provide free bike parking too for all residents.
Perhaps the number of people on the subways is the same as it was a few years ago but the cars just seem more crowded due to an increase in leg spreaders and obese riders.