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There must be some middle ground on the importance/livability of NYC. It’s neither a shit hole nor a mecca for all things wonderful. We have many lovely amenities here, be they museums, parks, views, and on the other side, we wind up paying for it in our housing and transportation costs, among other thing. Not all neighborhoods are particularly gay friendly, or even friendly towards racial minorities, but I sure as hell don’t wanna take my black lesbo ass to the middle of Kansas or Utah. The subway rides cost too much, IMO, but at least it runs 24/7 unlike many other city’s mass transit. We have neighborhoods with run-down homes, vacant lots and clear economic blight, and we also have the beautiful looking parts that inspire you to take a picture of darn near everything you see. Just like most other large cities. I say all this to point out that perhaps it’s time we stop talking about NYC in absolute/extreme terms of being the greatest place in the USA/the most expensive shit hole in the USA. We are somewhere in between, like a lot of other places, and one’s specific dwelling location and mindset will affect which side of the line you push your toes over to.
Yes etson. I agree that NYC is falling short. The gay marriage debate is another issue where NYC should be out there paving the way for equal rights, but has so far been unable to do so.
But to the world, NYC is the beacon of America as the land of the free. Would you not agree with that?
And considering that the ultimate goal in this debate on the side of those against the mosque is to be free of terrorists, it strikes me as odd that in order to defeat the terrorists we must now make our country more like that of the countries where the terrorists came from by eliminating one of our own basic freedoms.
I was going to comment on that too, rob. I decided not to. I’m in no mood to be attacked by folks who think this city is the center of the universe.
Whaddya kiddin’ me? You are both confused. New York City is the center of the Universe. Get with the program.
For me, I have to say I love New York with my whole heart. I lived elsewhere and coming home was the biggest thrill of the experiences I had. I remember coming home from Tokyo, where I was living, on a business trip once. I was coming back to do some work and to see family and friends and because I didn’t think anybody could take care of Aldo (my great huge white cat) I took him with me. EVERYBODY, repeat, EVERYBODY I met on the way home helped me with something. My luggage, getting the ticket, the bus driver even watched for Aldo’s carrier box when he turned corners. Need some help with that “doll”? he asked. I remember feeling like I didn’t have to explain anything, that I was home and in its rough matter of fact way, NY and New Yorkers were/are simply the best.
bitch please 11217 dont be a hypocrite. if someone wanted to open up a Church of Satan in park slope, you telling me the neighborhood wouldnt be UP IN ARMS over it!? of course they would. and yes, i dont care where they put their fugly mosque for their backwards intolerant religion. they do have the right, but so do people have the right to protest it.
Not sure what NYC ‘leading the way in freedom’ means, unless it refers to its historical role as the landing point for a lot of immigrants.
I love NYC but can certainly think of parts of the US that I would think of as more free now. NYC has a lot of rules and bureaucracy.
It says so much about your character that you’ve chosen a place to live which you don’t enjoy. We have one life…if you’ve decided to live in in a place you don’t love or think is great, then what exactly is the point?
There must be some middle ground on the importance/livability of NYC. It’s neither a shit hole nor a mecca for all things wonderful. We have many lovely amenities here, be they museums, parks, views, and on the other side, we wind up paying for it in our housing and transportation costs, among other thing. Not all neighborhoods are particularly gay friendly, or even friendly towards racial minorities, but I sure as hell don’t wanna take my black lesbo ass to the middle of Kansas or Utah. The subway rides cost too much, IMO, but at least it runs 24/7 unlike many other city’s mass transit. We have neighborhoods with run-down homes, vacant lots and clear economic blight, and we also have the beautiful looking parts that inspire you to take a picture of darn near everything you see. Just like most other large cities. I say all this to point out that perhaps it’s time we stop talking about NYC in absolute/extreme terms of being the greatest place in the USA/the most expensive shit hole in the USA. We are somewhere in between, like a lot of other places, and one’s specific dwelling location and mindset will affect which side of the line you push your toes over to.
Yes etson. I agree that NYC is falling short. The gay marriage debate is another issue where NYC should be out there paving the way for equal rights, but has so far been unable to do so.
But to the world, NYC is the beacon of America as the land of the free. Would you not agree with that?
And considering that the ultimate goal in this debate on the side of those against the mosque is to be free of terrorists, it strikes me as odd that in order to defeat the terrorists we must now make our country more like that of the countries where the terrorists came from by eliminating one of our own basic freedoms.
“CGar, the Tom Cat is back.”
It was gone, babe???
” ive stated numerous times they are in the laundry room of my apartment building. NOT in my apartment.”
those bedbugs are on their way up even as we speak… slowly, silently, multiplying as they get ever-closer…
By ishtar on August 19, 2010 2:13 PM
I was going to comment on that too, rob. I decided not to. I’m in no mood to be attacked by folks who think this city is the center of the universe.
Whaddya kiddin’ me? You are both confused. New York City is the center of the Universe. Get with the program.
For me, I have to say I love New York with my whole heart. I lived elsewhere and coming home was the biggest thrill of the experiences I had. I remember coming home from Tokyo, where I was living, on a business trip once. I was coming back to do some work and to see family and friends and because I didn’t think anybody could take care of Aldo (my great huge white cat) I took him with me. EVERYBODY, repeat, EVERYBODY I met on the way home helped me with something. My luggage, getting the ticket, the bus driver even watched for Aldo’s carrier box when he turned corners. Need some help with that “doll”? he asked. I remember feeling like I didn’t have to explain anything, that I was home and in its rough matter of fact way, NY and New Yorkers were/are simply the best.
“Who’s buying all the 30 Year treasuries today?? Is that you, denton???”
not me dibs, but things ain’t looking too good today.
bitch please 11217 dont be a hypocrite. if someone wanted to open up a Church of Satan in park slope, you telling me the neighborhood wouldnt be UP IN ARMS over it!? of course they would. and yes, i dont care where they put their fugly mosque for their backwards intolerant religion. they do have the right, but so do people have the right to protest it.
*rob*
Not sure what NYC ‘leading the way in freedom’ means, unless it refers to its historical role as the landing point for a lot of immigrants.
I love NYC but can certainly think of parts of the US that I would think of as more free now. NYC has a lot of rules and bureaucracy.
It says so much about your character that you’ve chosen a place to live which you don’t enjoy. We have one life…if you’ve decided to live in in a place you don’t love or think is great, then what exactly is the point?