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  1. “it’s like that with plumbers these days,
    everything they do seems to start at $800.”

    You said it! I swear that $800 is the basic unit price for plumbers. It’s just a matter of what multiple they will apply to it.

  2. I hear you M4L. I always find it unpleasant to deal with dealerships. I bought this car two weeks ago (yes, the wife crashed it the second time she drove it). I wish I could have bought in the private market but it’s a 3 year old minivan and there are almost none of those available on the private market. Most 3 year old cars are coming off lease and are in the dealer market. People who own those cars (Sienna, Odyssey, etc) usually keep them until they are much older before selling and I didn’t want an older car. So I bit the bullet and went to a dealership (I scouted out a few before settling on one).

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