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“So what’s the viable, doable alternative here, energy experts? ”
mm, not an expert but we have to slow down the consumption of liquid petroleum, that’s for sure, so there will be enuf time to find an alternative, if there is one. If Lech is right the standard of living we enjoy will sure shrink rapidly, and society may plunge into chaos quickly. There are intelligent people who believe it will happen sooner rather than later.
We have to especially slow down what’s used for driving, and especially here. Because that is relatively painless, and relatively achievable, and will save a lot.
We will certainly have to greatly step up power generated in nuclear plants, and find better ways to deliver it.
Both of those will also slow the release of carbon into the atmosphere.
I can’t think of anything that would have a serious impact other than those two, for now.
Solar, wind turbine, geo-thermal, tidal turbine, and so on, all these are tinkering at the margin. One day they’ll amount to something, maybe.
The thing is that we must stop the growth in oil use. That’s what is scary. If we can keep oil demand at its current numbers, there is enuf for a long time. The problem that with demand rising at 2% a year, we are probably not going to fill that demand with new production. Especially after the US Gulf fiasco. Then we’re on a long and dangerous slope downhill as the price rises every year and fewer and fewer will be able to afford it.
It was called playgroup for us. I can’t remember if they actually taught us anything there as well. My mom taught me to read before I started regular school.
Denton —
It’s true. But there should be a limit right? There is very little perceptible difference in pick-up and speed between my 12 year old Plymouth and a brand new Ford (that I’ve rented). The difference is that the new Ford is 12 years newer and gets the SAME fuel efficiency!!!!
That is just plain shameful.
We’re not talking muscle cars here — these are normal, run-of-the-mill cars for transport and travel.
I never went to pre-K either, and I was living in Queens at the time. We moved upstate after I finished Kindergarten. They did not have pre-K upstate. Kid played under the supervision of stay at home Moms, or learned farm chores with Dad. This, of course, was way back when, when we had to dodge dinosaurs.
Just wanted to note that I spent a weekend in Amish country and if you want to lower the energy consumption, we can all just live like they do. Holy moly was the whole way of life super interesting. They are suffering recession pretty hard core though now. Most work they do is either construction or dairy farms and neither of those are doing good at all.
Thank god they got each other to help each other out.
but yeah pre K is essentially free baby sitting, but then again isnt the whole NYC public school system just that?
i think it depends on the preK what they focus on. i mean there are some where kids are already learning new languages and stuff.. but for the most part it’s just milk and cookies and naps.
“So what’s the viable, doable alternative here, energy experts? ”
mm, not an expert but we have to slow down the consumption of liquid petroleum, that’s for sure, so there will be enuf time to find an alternative, if there is one. If Lech is right the standard of living we enjoy will sure shrink rapidly, and society may plunge into chaos quickly. There are intelligent people who believe it will happen sooner rather than later.
We have to especially slow down what’s used for driving, and especially here. Because that is relatively painless, and relatively achievable, and will save a lot.
We will certainly have to greatly step up power generated in nuclear plants, and find better ways to deliver it.
Both of those will also slow the release of carbon into the atmosphere.
I can’t think of anything that would have a serious impact other than those two, for now.
Solar, wind turbine, geo-thermal, tidal turbine, and so on, all these are tinkering at the margin. One day they’ll amount to something, maybe.
The thing is that we must stop the growth in oil use. That’s what is scary. If we can keep oil demand at its current numbers, there is enuf for a long time. The problem that with demand rising at 2% a year, we are probably not going to fill that demand with new production. Especially after the US Gulf fiasco. Then we’re on a long and dangerous slope downhill as the price rises every year and fewer and fewer will be able to afford it.
It was called playgroup for us. I can’t remember if they actually taught us anything there as well. My mom taught me to read before I started regular school.
Kens, were you freaking out when your crackberry needed some recharging?
Denton —
It’s true. But there should be a limit right? There is very little perceptible difference in pick-up and speed between my 12 year old Plymouth and a brand new Ford (that I’ve rented). The difference is that the new Ford is 12 years newer and gets the SAME fuel efficiency!!!!
That is just plain shameful.
We’re not talking muscle cars here — these are normal, run-of-the-mill cars for transport and travel.
I never went to pre-K either, and I was living in Queens at the time. We moved upstate after I finished Kindergarten. They did not have pre-K upstate. Kid played under the supervision of stay at home Moms, or learned farm chores with Dad. This, of course, was way back when, when we had to dodge dinosaurs.
also it wasnt called pre K back then, it was just called pre-school.. for some reason i thought most people go to pre-school, no?
*rob*
Hi all. Busy day at work…
Just wanted to note that I spent a weekend in Amish country and if you want to lower the energy consumption, we can all just live like they do. Holy moly was the whole way of life super interesting. They are suffering recession pretty hard core though now. Most work they do is either construction or dairy farms and neither of those are doing good at all.
Thank god they got each other to help each other out.
but yeah pre K is essentially free baby sitting, but then again isnt the whole NYC public school system just that?
i think it depends on the preK what they focus on. i mean there are some where kids are already learning new languages and stuff.. but for the most part it’s just milk and cookies and naps.
*rob*
WORK from HOME is among 1 of the best “GREEN” activities but the stupid bosses frown upon that