madison stThis beaut on Madison Street between Classon and Franklin looks like a score to us. Only a few yards from the the Clinton Hill border, this would be priced 50% higher if it were three or four blocks further west. There are not a lot of photos to go on, but the reno challenge doesn’t look overwhelming to us. Good bones overlaid with some cheap sheetrock construction that can be easily ripped out. No idea about the mechanicals and plumbing–but we’d assume the worst. The four-story brownstone is currently configured as a three-family but looks to us like it could work well as a owner-occupied two-family or even a condo play, given the extra 1,600 square feet of unutilized FAR.
17 Madison Street [Corcoran] GMAP P*Shark


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  1. To ignore the existence of FAR in discussing the value of a property would be stupid. Those unbuilt square feet translate into dollars. Don’t see how mentioning FAR or the possibility of condo conversion equates with promoting ugly, out-of-context development or being anti-preservationist. Discussion ain’t advocacy.

  2. Mike:
    Wishing death on heroin users is so uncool. So very sieg heil and all that. There is a lot of serious discourse over whether methadone is worse than heroin or not (recently a doucmentary on HBO about it, I think). Babptists come in many stripes. American Baptists (the northern branch) can be very progressive; your angst about “baptists” is proabbly referring to teh southern branch. A Baptist church in Brooklyn is most probably affiliated with the an African American denomination (alas the most segregated time in America is still 11 am on Sundays). Gay folks are very active in many congregations with varying degrees of openness and acceptance. I would suggest that someone who so cavalierly wishes death on his chemically dependent brethern should refrain from commenting on the morals on anyone.

  3. i saw the place last year around february. it really is a gut renovation especially if you think of the second floor jack-up job. the floor has a hill and on the bottom of the hill there is a water damege area aaaaaaaa..

  4. Honestly, this place looks like a gut job to me. The renovations that they have done look awful. And I don’t like the color they painted the outside, tho it is a very pretty facade otherwise.

  5. Brownstoner, you keep on bringing up unused FAR and “condo plays” but then hide behind the “I’m really a preservationist” schtick. Last week Greenpoint, this week here. The only way to maximize the FAR here would be to add stories or fill in the backyard, either of which would be a disaster to the street or the neighbors. Would you care to defend yourself?

  6. It’s not so funny I just this past Oct got rid of a Methdone junkie tenant we inhereted with the building. Many many trips to court and finally a nice cash
    payment, legal, court okay’d. The idiot Junkie wanted cash only and it barely fit into the legal size envelope
    we gave him at the bank. He went straight from the bank to the “methadone clinic.” Life around those characters is fithly and a joke. — I propose we give them all free 100% pure herion and let them swing out on their own ropes.
    And the Baptists can be very scary – Jerry Falwell and his ilk…
    Ask them how they feel about gay people, scary, scary.

  7. From what I understand, there is no clinic on Classon and Fulton. Addicts gather near Grand and Classon Aves because the methadone clinic on Waverly requires patients/program participants to leave immediately after treatment and stay a minimum of three blocks away from the site. The policy was initiated to placate and appease Waverly residents angry over its placement in the community.

    I say we incite an angry mob to hang and burn the program director in effigy followed by a torching of the entire building. Nothing like taking matters into your own hands…. 😉

    Just a joke but I definitely understand the frustration in southeastern Clinton Hill. Fulton is a challenge and it’s going to take a lot of work to clean it up. I don’t think area residents can simply sit back and wait for change to occur gradually via gentrification. Block associations must join forces and put forth a unified front in dealing with the police, local politicians and the community board to effectuate some positive change in the area.

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