New Sprinklers

You can remove the sprinkler work from the Alt1 with a PAA. File an Alt2 to permit the sprinkler work with an architect/engineer.

xprometheusx

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billcash

in Plumbing 9 years and 4 months ago

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I am planning to file an Alt-1 in order to convert a brownstone to a legal 2-family. The expediter confirmed that we’ll have to build a sprinkler system.
Alt-1 permit approval from DOB may take months. But we would like to start working on the renovation as soon as possible.
Could we start building the sprinkler system without permit, as long as we do not connect it to the main water source ?
We would open the sheet rock ceilings and install the pipes. We would wait for the permit approval in order to do the final work to connect it.

randolph | 9 years and 4 months ago

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Your alt1 would have a sprinkler diagram showing number and placement of heads and until the dob approved this plan I’m not sure it would be wise to start building it. And the sprinklers don’t take that long to put in so I don’t think you’d be saving much time.

If I’ve learned nothing else during my renovation (besides DON’T GET INVOLVED IN RENOVATING AN OLD HOUSE!) it’s that trying to speed up the process doesn’t work- it’ll take just as long and cost you more. Get all your ducks in a row, all your permits and budget and GC and architect and engineer etc etc etc BEFORE you start any work.

xprometheusx | 9 years and 4 months ago

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Everyone has stars in their eyes when it comes to “rebuilding” a Brownstone. I’ve found it’s best to remove all violations, etc. And sell a clean house to a developer if you’re looking to let go of it quickly.

I don’t recommend doing work without permits. As an expediter I would’ve suggested breaking the sprinklers off the ALT1 into a separate ALT2 application. This way work can begin. An ALT1 is only required when there is a change in use, egress, or occupancy. Hence, all the work pertaining to that should be on there.

Typically the architect or contractor chooses an expediter. A great expediter acts a consultant and provides multiple options for moving forward in lines with the client’s demands.

agdipierro

in Plumbing 9 years and 4 months ago

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Of course, you cannot legally construct something that has not been permitted. So, technically, you cannot build the sprinkler system before it’s been approved.