Steam Heat Short Cycling

Last year, we moved into a new house with a steam boiler system. We accidentally overfilled the boiler resulting in exceptionally filthy water and major sight glass surging and horrible noises. Shortly after, short cycling began. Whenever there was an automatic call for heat, the boiler would fire for 5-7 minutes and turn off. Like clockwork. The only thing that stopped the short cycle is manually increasing the temp from what it’s set to or turning off the heat. Nobody could figure out the issue; we replaced the pressuretrol, gauge, and thermostat and the short cycling continued. We also ensured the boiler was properly sized. Finally, we replaced the LWCO and the short cycling stopped! I guess the sensor was corroded. Well, this year we had our boiler maintenanced. Shortly after, extremely dirty water and intensely surging sight glass followed and then short cycling again after every auto call for heat. Exact same problem as last year. Our maintenance guy has replaced the thermostat four times to no avail. Should we replace low water cut off again?

nina.chelidze

in Heating and Cooling 3 years and 6 months ago

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I was hoping for a model number and other info

hasibur.rahman07 | 3 years and 6 months ago

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The Slant Fin logo doesn’t seem to have changed since 1950 [Early Slant-fin Truck](//muut.com/u/brownstoner/s1/:brownstoner:5Hn3:earlyslantfintruck.png.jpg)

hasibur.rahman07 | 3 years and 6 months ago

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I recognized the lettering. I was looking at this case study: https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/absolute-mechanical-co-inc and thinking it’s the same brand.

nina.chelidze | 3 years and 6 months ago

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Slant Finn!

nina.chelidze | 3 years and 6 months ago

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Slant Finn!

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lkrshacmzcy | 3 years and 6 months ago

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hasibur.rahman07 | 3 years and 6 months ago

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@MP I met with a plumber the other day and he and I were chatting about radiant. Halfway through, he pulled out Dan Holohan’s book out of his bag , showed it to me and told me to get it.

@eman I may reach out to you if he can’t figure out my heating situation.

Guest User | 3 years and 6 months ago

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Out of curiosity could you post a closeup of the boiler nameplate on the boiler ? I can’t quite make it out

nina.chelidze | 3 years and 6 months ago

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Wow – thank you!!!!! This is good to know and also a little discouraging and nerve-racking. We have stopped short cycling which is allowing us to breathe a little easier for now. Hoping we can maintain this until we can afford a more permanent fix/switch. Your time and attention is truly appreciated.

nina.chelidze | 3 years and 6 months ago

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Wow – thank you!!!!! This is good to know and also a little discouraging and nerve-racking. We have stopped short cycling which is allowing us to breathe a little easier for now. Hoping we can maintain this until we can afford a more permanent fix/switch. Your time and attention is truly appreciated.

Master Plvmber | 3 years and 6 months ago

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Yeah I can’t help you with that. I don’t know of a steam boiler that vents out the center of the top like that which leads me to believe someone used a water boiler and converted it to steam and in the process put the low water cutoff in the wrong place and installed a too-small skim port valve where the tapping for the lwco ought to be. It’s a mess and if the people you have working on it aren’t telling you this then you need new people. I’m sorry. I wish I could help.

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Post a picture of your boiler. Stand back and get the whole thing including the pipes above it.

nina.chelidze | 3 years and 6 months ago

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Thank you. We are located upstate ?

nina.chelidze | 3 years and 6 months ago

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Thank you. We are located upstate ?

hasibur.rahman07 | 3 years and 6 months ago

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http://gatewayplumbing.com/john-cataneo/

stevecym | 3 years and 6 months ago

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Ok. If he does not come here and post it himself, I will get it but i have to look for it. He used to be affiliated with i think a firm off sixth ave a block south of broome. I think. Give it a little time, someone should have it.

As for having to help licensed pros. If you are having to do what you are doing something is off.