Heat and Gas bill during winter

you pay $.50 / therm all in? My bill from National Grid is usually closer to $1/therm including delivery + supply charge. Wonder if they are gouging me somehow.

southsloppy

in Heating and Cooling 7 years and 6 months ago

25

Please log in, in order to post replies!

25 replies

Newest Oldest

greenworks | 7 years and 6 months ago

string(1) "1"
object(WP_User)#5101 (8) {
  ["data"]=>
  object(stdClass)#4889 (12) {
    ["ID"]=>
    string(6) "193898"
    ["user_login"]=>
    string(10) "greenworks"
    ["user_pass"]=>
    string(34) "$P$BvxiXeodyQysgcTYowSaAwPkHGvc1S0"
    ["user_nicename"]=>
    string(10) "greenworks"
    ["user_email"]=>
    string(38) "greenworksconstruction936962@gmail.com"
    ["user_url"]=>
    string(0) ""
    ["user_registered"]=>
    string(19) "2024-02-23 12:31:20"
    ["user_activation_key"]=>
    string(0) ""
    ["user_status"]=>
    string(1) "0"
    ["display_name"]=>
    string(61) "Your first name Your last name Your first name Your last name"
    ["spam"]=>
    string(1) "0"
    ["deleted"]=>
    string(1) "0"
  }
  ["ID"]=>
  int(193898)
  ["caps"]=>
  array(1) {
    ["subscriber"]=>
    bool(true)
  }
  ["cap_key"]=>
  string(15) "wp_capabilities"
  ["roles"]=>
  array(1) {
    [0]=>
    string(10) "subscriber"
  }
  ["allcaps"]=>
  array(3) {
    ["read"]=>
    bool(true)
    ["level_0"]=>
    bool(true)
    ["subscriber"]=>
    bool(true)
  }
  ["filter"]=>
  NULL
  ["site_id":"WP_User":private]=>
  int(1)
}

Had freestanding house on mountain in Vermont and had plenty of neighbors who didn’t want to piss away a few bucks a month to keep their house at 60 and wound up pissing away plenty more when their pipes froze and burst. Glad you were lucky.

Down here there’s always the risk of frozen pipes no matter what – had three neighbors with full heat and bad insulation in certain areas get frozen pipes this cold stretch.

I’m with the plumbers here tho – turn water off and drain the system. Sound much easier than I thought.

RobertGMarvin

in Heating and Cooling 7 years and 6 months ago

string(1) "2"
object(WP_User)#5101 (8) {
  ["data"]=>
  object(stdClass)#5110 (12) {
    ["ID"]=>
    string(3) "779"
    ["user_login"]=>
    string(13) "RobertGMarvin"
    ["user_pass"]=>
    string(0) ""
    ["user_nicename"]=>
    string(13) "RobertGMarvin"
    ["user_email"]=>
    string(40) "64df18426207ddf12f1789eba7eabd04a9c3f615"
    ["user_url"]=>
    string(0) ""
    ["user_registered"]=>
    string(19) "2007-08-10 18:03:45"
    ["user_activation_key"]=>
    string(0) ""
    ["user_status"]=>
    string(1) "0"
    ["display_name"]=>
    string(10) "Bob Marvin"
    ["spam"]=>
    string(1) "0"
    ["deleted"]=>
    string(1) "0"
  }
  ["ID"]=>
  int(779)
  ["caps"]=>
  array(0) {
  }
  ["cap_key"]=>
  string(15) "wp_capabilities"
  ["roles"]=>
  array(0) {
  }
  ["allcaps"]=>
  array(0) {
  }
  ["filter"]=>
  NULL
  ["site_id":"WP_User":private]=>
  int(1)
}

If you drain the system do you have to put antifreeze in the traps?

slopefarm | 7 years and 6 months ago

string(1) "1"
object(WP_User)#4880 (8) {
  ["data"]=>
  object(stdClass)#4883 (12) {
    ["ID"]=>
    string(3) "655"
    ["user_login"]=>
    string(9) "slopefarm"
    ["user_pass"]=>
    string(34) "$P$BK7dzbqXJe9TV6iU0glcNZiXdOt9CR1"
    ["user_nicename"]=>
    string(9) "slopefarm"
    ["user_email"]=>
    string(18) "jrubin@law.nyc.gov"
    ["user_url"]=>
    string(24) "/forums/users/slopefarm/"
    ["user_registered"]=>
    string(19) "2017-08-10 14:11:42"
    ["user_activation_key"]=>
    string(0) ""
    ["user_status"]=>
    string(1) "0"
    ["display_name"]=>
    string(9) "slopefarm"
    ["spam"]=>
    string(1) "0"
    ["deleted"]=>
    string(1) "0"
  }
  ["ID"]=>
  int(655)
  ["caps"]=>
  array(2) {
    ["subscriber"]=>
    bool(true)
    ["bbp_participant"]=>
    bool(true)
  }
  ["cap_key"]=>
  string(15) "wp_capabilities"
  ["roles"]=>
  array(2) {
    [0]=>
    string(10) "subscriber"
    [1]=>
    string(15) "bbp_participant"
  }
  ["allcaps"]=>
  array(4) {
    ["read"]=>
    bool(true)
    ["level_0"]=>
    bool(true)
    ["subscriber"]=>
    bool(true)
    ["bbp_participant"]=>
    bool(true)
  }
  ["filter"]=>
  NULL
  ["site_id":"WP_User":private]=>
  int(1)
}

Our house was being renovated by a flipper during contract prior to closing (long story, never again, lawsuit ensued, buy me a beer — make that two — and I’ll tell you about it etc). Flipper got SWO, turned off the heat, house was vacant all winter and the pipes froze and burst. tons of damage. So yes, drain the pipes if you are going to shut the heat.

murph | 7 years and 6 months ago

string(1) "1"
object(WP_User)#4879 (8) {
  ["data"]=>
  object(stdClass)#4881 (12) {
    ["ID"]=>
    string(5) "14113"
    ["user_login"]=>
    string(5) "murph"
    ["user_pass"]=>
    string(34) "$P$BtXSTW4BIdTGv7Hod2bWPFl8fIF.MM."
    ["user_nicename"]=>
    string(5) "murph"
    ["user_email"]=>
    string(17) "mayocork9@aol.com"
    ["user_url"]=>
    string(52) "http://bstoner.wpengine.com/forums/users/sunsetpark/"
    ["user_registered"]=>
    string(19) "2017-08-10 13:47:20"
    ["user_activation_key"]=>
    string(0) ""
    ["user_status"]=>
    string(1) "0"
    ["display_name"]=>
    string(5) "murph"
    ["spam"]=>
    string(1) "0"
    ["deleted"]=>
    string(1) "0"
  }
  ["ID"]=>
  int(14113)
  ["caps"]=>
  array(2) {
    ["subscriber"]=>
    bool(true)
    ["bbp_participant"]=>
    bool(true)
  }
  ["cap_key"]=>
  string(15) "wp_capabilities"
  ["roles"]=>
  array(2) {
    [0]=>
    string(10) "subscriber"
    [1]=>
    string(15) "bbp_participant"
  }
  ["allcaps"]=>
  array(4) {
    ["read"]=>
    bool(true)
    ["level_0"]=>
    bool(true)
    ["subscriber"]=>
    bool(true)
    ["bbp_participant"]=>
    bool(true)
  }
  ["filter"]=>
  NULL
  ["site_id":"WP_User":private]=>
  int(1)
}

I have a 3,554 sq. ft. semi-detached 3-story BS with 3,210 sq ft of exposed exterior walls. My recent GRID bill was $193.00–some 400 Therms @ $0.48/Therm?–to feed a 330k burner(Big Boy) with an indirect-fired HW tank attached and I feel fine. GRID says I’m good.

First, seal the house tight! Tight double or triple-pane windows and insulated doors. Caulk all frames–important. Seal the cellar front & back. Blow in as much insulation under the roof as you can–good year-round. Wrap all the HW & pipes & heating lines in the cellar. You can do this yourself. Then get an energy audit to check yourself out. Do what they say.

Better still get them in first. You like to throw around money?

yudashasom | 7 years and 6 months ago

string(1) "1"
object(WP_User)#5101 (8) {
  ["data"]=>
  object(stdClass)#5099 (12) {
    ["ID"]=>
    string(6) "194528"
    ["user_login"]=>
    string(10) "yudashasom"
    ["user_pass"]=>
    string(34) "$P$BKrcOOJj2qysH3kdOE3mMqxeyqPZ1m0"
    ["user_nicename"]=>
    string(10) "yudashasom"
    ["user_email"]=>
    string(20) "yudashasom@gmail.com"
    ["user_url"]=>
    string(0) ""
    ["user_registered"]=>
    string(19) "2017-08-10 14:07:32"
    ["user_activation_key"]=>
    string(0) ""
    ["user_status"]=>
    string(1) "0"
    ["display_name"]=>
    string(29) "Dasha Sominski Dasha Sominski"
    ["spam"]=>
    string(1) "0"
    ["deleted"]=>
    string(1) "0"
  }
  ["ID"]=>
  int(194528)
  ["caps"]=>
  array(1) {
    ["subscriber"]=>
    bool(true)
  }
  ["cap_key"]=>
  string(15) "wp_capabilities"
  ["roles"]=>
  array(1) {
    [0]=>
    string(10) "subscriber"
  }
  ["allcaps"]=>
  array(3) {
    ["read"]=>
    bool(true)
    ["level_0"]=>
    bool(true)
    ["subscriber"]=>
    bool(true)
  }
  ["filter"]=>
  NULL
  ["site_id":"WP_User":private]=>
  int(1)
}

What did your energy audit say about that big boy boiler? It sounds very oversized.