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  1. Benson, have you been taking Pills of Righteousness, lately? Sheesh.

    No one is dismissing the death of that young man, or the pain it causes his family. But what about the values of innocent until proven guilty? What about the life of someone who has already achieved much, and was on the fast track to become a vital member of whatever community she chose, as well as a role model for young people from Bed Stuy, or black youth in general? She is now the talk of the internet, the subject of national newspapers, and the speculations of people everywhere. Not for her successes, but for her associations. I would think that you, who have recently been raking the rest of us over the coals for supposedly being against the little guy – the bricklayer, stone carver, and working class folk in general, would be more sympathetic towards her, and be questioning her treatment by an elitist Ivy League school.

  2. I’m laughing my muthafuckin ass off about homeless in Crown Heights. This is huge and worse than what ROTW predicted, condos into low income housing. Now, condos into no-income housing, the anti-asshat. Coming to a block near DIBS.

    Good for them. I hope this helps them land on their feet. Seems like some decent families in there.

    ***Bid half off peak comps***

  3. Dosteov;

    Thank you for adding a dose of sanity to this thread. All that we do know for certain is that a person was murdered. Everything else is pure speculation at this point, and yet folks are spilling words and words over it.

    I tell you, I gotta get out of NY. The norms that are developing in this town are just not in keeping with my values.

  4. Faithful I completely agree with you. And for the record that’s not Crown Heights, that’s ENY. Crown Heights ends at Empire and Utica Aves…East New York Ave is on the other side of Utica.

    I hate when the media and real estate agents get Brooklyn neighborhoods wrong.

  5. MM, are you attending the CB8 meeting tonight? I certainly remember the Grenada Hotel downtown. I went to elementary school with those kids. Some were at the hotel because their homes had burned down while others lost their homes because their parents chose crack over paying their Section 8 rent. Many of the kids had baggage at 11 and 12 years old. I remember a girl in my 6th grade class was prostituting herself for money and food.

  6. I agree with a poster’s comment on the Daily News blog. If in fact these luxury condos have been given to homeless families that have lost their jobs and homes due to the economy and will one day get on their feet, then I don’t have a problem. What I do have a problem with is when drug addicts, people who refuse to work and collect welfare and continue to have babies with non-working men are handed freebies. All of us on this blog have worked and continue to work hard to buy and keep our homes. Nothing has been handed to us, yet it seems that we’ve become a country that just hands things to the people who are least deserving of it. Just my two cents.

  7. I find the whole Harvard situation to be on the face of it, a clear case of guilt by association. Pretty vague association, at that. Unless there are some mammoth skeletons in her closet, and there is no hint of that at all, she’s not going to have to worry about paying back student loans, because the lawsuit’s going to cover that quite well. Also there has been no press on the other girl, who is from Harlem, and also has a similar background. What’s going on here?

    I also expect the usual howling here about the homeless getting swanky free apartments. Somehow, the horror and uncertainty of being homeless, especially for a family, is barely mitigated by this occurence. There is no guarantee of permanence, especially from an agency not known for great successes. The people still have a shaky future, trying to now find good jobs, schools for kids, and a way out of being under the thumb of city agencies, and on their own again. Not to mention whatever horrors and circumstances put them here in the first place. Hardly “fair”, or “lucky” for them.

    For the record, I’m not even sure where East New York Ave is, although I suspect it’s on the ENY/CH border, not a place I would think expensive condos would be likely to sell, anyway. $350K is a lot of money in a community with an average income of about $38K/year. I’m sure the developer would rather have the homeless, as filtered through DHS. More money, guaranteed by the city, not the work of the usual landlord/tenant squabbles that would arise with regular renters. In the past, this has turned into a horror story for the homeless, and a cash cow for some unscrupulous landlords. Anyone remember that hotel that used to be downtown, where the Mark Morris Dance Center is? Let’s hope that’s not repeated, albeit with marble sinks and fancy appliances.

  8. Why so much sympathy for the people who knew the murderer (and may have in fact played some kind of role in the killing, like letting the murderer into the building) and not the person who was actually murdered?

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