Legion, thanks for that. Where do innocent children fit in? Those born to parents that can’t make a living. It seems they will be protected so the only people left to go after are the middle class. But you take away their safety net and they end up in the lower rungs. Then what?
Benson, a few points:
1. The city (blue) has done much better than the state, especially upstate (red). It is hardly the same economy or demographic.
2. The Northeast/middle Atlantic states is built up. There is not much room to grow, like there is in Texas.
We live in a capitalist society,
this is the playing field that we are either born into or sign on for when arriving in this country.
Ground rules are : you work hard, you get ahead.
you don’t work hard you don’t get ahead. shit will happen and we are a wealthy enough nation to provide a safety net if need be. Some will have luck shine upon them, others will not. Plus you get a pension and medical care after 65.
Problem: For political gain and social posturing, many Americans over the past 100 years have taken to talking socialist-type pablum which undermines the basic tenets of this society and ignores ample historical and present evidence of that philosophy’s failure. Witness the over-reaching pension/wage/benefit schemes currently plaguing blue states.
It always sounds great to be for the people and for the masses and to give more than you receive. That is until there is an accounting and the money has run out. Then come the cries and recriminations.
Understanding human nature, it is found that man needs to keep his mind occupied to have a fulfilling life. Work is good for the soul as they say. Certain political and social groups however have twisted the idea of hard work and effort into some kind of referendum on the injustices of our society. As if there really is a choice otherwise.
Yet, from ivory towers and social science ventures across the nation, you will hear individuals speak of “social justice” and class warfare in a code language written in cynicism and bound for failure because another certainty of human nature is this: we are restless and the devil soon finds work for idle hands to do.
New York is clearly in the bottom 10 states in terms of population growth, but how can you link that to specific policies or politics?
California has been a huge growth state (although it has slowed over the last decade) with policies that are generally considered to be business unfriendly.
State growth is very complex with a huge number of variables.
Business friendly policies is certainly one factor, but not the only one.
“I’ve always felt that I have a unique perspective on economics from multiple vantage points…hob nobbing with extremely wealthy hedge fund managers and trolling for rough trade on 8th Ave. The illegal Mexican connection brings an interesting perspective too.â€
Interesting data points! Regardless, I’m sure you tend support the theories that are in line with ends you’re looking for (nh).
“Ground rules are : you work hard, you get ahead.”
RE-writes, get your re-writes here.
Legion, thanks for that. Where do innocent children fit in? Those born to parents that can’t make a living. It seems they will be protected so the only people left to go after are the middle class. But you take away their safety net and they end up in the lower rungs. Then what?
“Ground rules are : you work hard, you get ahead.”
unless you’re poor – then you might just tread water.
“you don’t work hard you don’t get ahead.”
unless you’re rich and have family connections – then you might become president or something.
Benson, a few points:
1. The city (blue) has done much better than the state, especially upstate (red). It is hardly the same economy or demographic.
2. The Northeast/middle Atlantic states is built up. There is not much room to grow, like there is in Texas.
hee hee hee
In the forum, DIBS asking about wood that goes into a pocket:
By daveinbedstuy on March 29, 2011 8:21 AM
What size are they?? Including thickness.
Thanks
DJL135e54@yahoo.com
legion’s economic summary:
We live in a capitalist society,
this is the playing field that we are either born into or sign on for when arriving in this country.
Ground rules are : you work hard, you get ahead.
you don’t work hard you don’t get ahead. shit will happen and we are a wealthy enough nation to provide a safety net if need be. Some will have luck shine upon them, others will not. Plus you get a pension and medical care after 65.
Problem: For political gain and social posturing, many Americans over the past 100 years have taken to talking socialist-type pablum which undermines the basic tenets of this society and ignores ample historical and present evidence of that philosophy’s failure. Witness the over-reaching pension/wage/benefit schemes currently plaguing blue states.
It always sounds great to be for the people and for the masses and to give more than you receive. That is until there is an accounting and the money has run out. Then come the cries and recriminations.
Understanding human nature, it is found that man needs to keep his mind occupied to have a fulfilling life. Work is good for the soul as they say. Certain political and social groups however have twisted the idea of hard work and effort into some kind of referendum on the injustices of our society. As if there really is a choice otherwise.
Yet, from ivory towers and social science ventures across the nation, you will hear individuals speak of “social justice” and class warfare in a code language written in cynicism and bound for failure because another certainty of human nature is this: we are restless and the devil soon finds work for idle hands to do.
New York is clearly in the bottom 10 states in terms of population growth, but how can you link that to specific policies or politics?
California has been a huge growth state (although it has slowed over the last decade) with policies that are generally considered to be business unfriendly.
State growth is very complex with a huge number of variables.
Business friendly policies is certainly one factor, but not the only one.
“I’ve always felt that I have a unique perspective on economics from multiple vantage points…hob nobbing with extremely wealthy hedge fund managers and trolling for rough trade on 8th Ave. The illegal Mexican connection brings an interesting perspective too.â€
Interesting data points! Regardless, I’m sure you tend support the theories that are in line with ends you’re looking for (nh).
dibs the furbs are relentless today