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  1. “if they got rid of the stupid tax breaks and all the bennies that married people get, 1.) people would just flat out stop marrying each other and 2.) we’d be better off financially.

    *rob*”

    If both people work, getting married is the worst thing you can do for your taxes.

  2. JB, I repatrioted Mrs M4L from a tribesman. my best friend is good friend with her brother. I’ve seen her before and know who she is. When her brother told my friend she was “available”, I got the digits and ringed her up asking for a date. rest was love at 1st sight on her part – easier to picture as I wasn’t a pillsbury dough boy then vs now.

  3. Re Trump and China, he said that what the hell were we doing buying Chinese stuff, from people who are maniuplating their currency, just start manufacturing things here in this country and slap tariffs on all Chinese goods. Yeah, that would work.

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    Marriage Rate Declines as People Say the Institution Is Obsolete

    if they got rid of the stupid tax breaks and all the bennies that married people get, 1.) people would just flat out stop marrying each other and 2.) we’d be better off financially.

    *rob*

  5. Etson, thanks. Yes, hedging from these levels offers much less promise for these guys and the presentations I heard recently made the point about liquids.

    Bxgrl, I heard Donald Trump on Morning Joe this morning. He is supposed to be a Republican but he was making the most moronic anti-trade, anti-Chinese statements. I never heard him hold forth on anything economic or political, but I was not impressed.

    Never trust anyone with a combover like that.

    When do you all think he is going to have that thing removed?

  6. Marriage Rate Declines as People Say the Institution Is Obsolete

    Nov. 18 (Bloomberg) — About half of all adults in the U.S.
    are married, down from 72 percent in 1960, while 4 in 10 people consider marriage obsolete and most say their definition of family has changed, according to a poll.
    In a telephone survey of 2,691 Americans by the Pew Research Center in Washington, 86 percent of respondents said a single parent and child constitute a family. Four out of 5 respondents said an unmarried man and woman with a child also were a family, and 63 percent said a gay or lesbian couple raising a youngster could be described the same way.
    The findings come with a “mix of unease and acceptance” as respondents were evenly split as to whether the new family units were good, bad or didn’t make a difference for society, the authors of the report said. Young adults, non-religious people, liberals and blacks, were more likely to be accepting of the new arrangements than their counterparts. Most people, no matter how they defined family, said it was central to their lives and more important than career, social life or community.
    “The survey finds that Americans have an expansive definition of what constitutes a family,” the report said.
    “And the vast majority of adults consider their own family to be the most important, most satisfying element of their lives.”
    The sharp decline in marriage is most pronounced among young adults. In 2008, 26 percent of 20-somethings were married compared with 68 percent in 1960. The number of young people who will ever marry “is an open question,” the report found.
    “Younger Americans are much more open to the changes and more tolerant of alternative arrangements,” the report said.
    Almost half of those under 30 said that the changes to family arrangements are a good thing.
    As marriage has declined, cohabitation has become more widespread. Living with a partner has doubled since 1990, and 44 percent of adults say they have cohabited at some point, usually as a step toward marriage.
    Among respondents who were married, 93 percent said love was the most important reason to tie the knot.

    **That last sentence seems to indicate that the population has not gotten any smarter**

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