dibs: this is what Jonah Goldberg wrote:
“This is what happened.
In the wake of her invade-and-Christianize-them column, Coulter wrote a long, rambling rant of a response to her critics that was barely coherent. She’s a smart and funny person, but this was Ann at her worst — emoting rather than thinking, and badly needing editing and some self-censorship, or what is commonly referred to as “judgment.”
Running this “piece” would have been an embarrassment to Ann, and to NRO. Rich Lowry pointed this out to her in an e-mail (I was returning from my honeymoon). She wrote back an angry response, defending herself from the charge that she hates Muslims and wants to convert them at gunpoint.
But this was not the point. It was NEVER the point. The problem with Ann’s first column was its sloppiness of expression and thought. Ann didn’t fail as a person — as all her critics on the Left say — she failed as WRITER, which for us is almost as bad.”
Well I remember when Journalism was supposed to be objective and just the “facts” – remember those days, old timers?
MSNBC panders to the left and Fox panders to the right – so pick your side and watch. Of course it was no surprise Fox picked up Juan Williams and for all we know this could have been orchestrated by Williams and Fox.
“In the case of NPR, my take is that it was an ideological litmus test in action. Have they rescinded the decision? Have they expressed remorse for it? Not that I know of.”
We’ll see. I doubt they will match Williams’s new salary at Fox, but let’s see if they say or do something in the next week or so.
I think it is possible for the first part of Williams’s statement to be outside what a “news analyst” (whose job it is to explain and provide context for the news but not to act as a pundit) ought to be saying in other media without it being an ideological firing, but I think the burden is on NPR to come forward with a bit more about what its guidelines are for analysts and what made this a firing offense. Your premise is ideology but the out of cotext statements also appear to undermine objectivity as well. But I think they goofed because the rest of his comments suggest that the kinds of personal biases he articulated are wrong and dangerous and need to be overcome, not espoused, by the media.
Incidentally, NPR’s On the Media show aired a pretty aggressive criticism of the firing yesterday, although not one that presupposes an ideological bias.
Anyway, take the last word if you want, but I’m done on this topic. Looking for lighter stuff to talk about.
I actually don’t watch any of these people nor any of these shows. I don’t watch Sunday morning political shows. All I want is the factual information. I don’t really care what self-important commentators have to say.
“I am surprised that you don’t like Greta (knowing that you lean to the other side). Of all the mjor players on Fox, she seems to be most squarely in the center.”
it’s mostly her face.
but yeah i agree – she isn’t really a lunatic right winger like hannity or beck.
This OT is totally too long, didn’t read.
dibs: this is what Jonah Goldberg wrote:
“This is what happened.
In the wake of her invade-and-Christianize-them column, Coulter wrote a long, rambling rant of a response to her critics that was barely coherent. She’s a smart and funny person, but this was Ann at her worst — emoting rather than thinking, and badly needing editing and some self-censorship, or what is commonly referred to as “judgment.”
Running this “piece” would have been an embarrassment to Ann, and to NRO. Rich Lowry pointed this out to her in an e-mail (I was returning from my honeymoon). She wrote back an angry response, defending herself from the charge that she hates Muslims and wants to convert them at gunpoint.
But this was not the point. It was NEVER the point. The problem with Ann’s first column was its sloppiness of expression and thought. Ann didn’t fail as a person — as all her critics on the Left say — she failed as WRITER, which for us is almost as bad.”
I like 60 Minutes and CBS Sunday Morning 🙂
Helloo – looks like I missed a lot today!
Well I remember when Journalism was supposed to be objective and just the “facts” – remember those days, old timers?
MSNBC panders to the left and Fox panders to the right – so pick your side and watch. Of course it was no surprise Fox picked up Juan Williams and for all we know this could have been orchestrated by Williams and Fox.
GSFOD:
“You are the master of every situation” [In bed]
“In the case of NPR, my take is that it was an ideological litmus test in action. Have they rescinded the decision? Have they expressed remorse for it? Not that I know of.”
We’ll see. I doubt they will match Williams’s new salary at Fox, but let’s see if they say or do something in the next week or so.
I think it is possible for the first part of Williams’s statement to be outside what a “news analyst” (whose job it is to explain and provide context for the news but not to act as a pundit) ought to be saying in other media without it being an ideological firing, but I think the burden is on NPR to come forward with a bit more about what its guidelines are for analysts and what made this a firing offense. Your premise is ideology but the out of cotext statements also appear to undermine objectivity as well. But I think they goofed because the rest of his comments suggest that the kinds of personal biases he articulated are wrong and dangerous and need to be overcome, not espoused, by the media.
Incidentally, NPR’s On the Media show aired a pretty aggressive criticism of the firing yesterday, although not one that presupposes an ideological bias.
Anyway, take the last word if you want, but I’m done on this topic. Looking for lighter stuff to talk about.
I actually don’t watch any of these people nor any of these shows. I don’t watch Sunday morning political shows. All I want is the factual information. I don’t really care what self-important commentators have to say.
“I am surprised that you don’t like Greta (knowing that you lean to the other side). Of all the mjor players on Fox, she seems to be most squarely in the center.”
it’s mostly her face.
but yeah i agree – she isn’t really a lunatic right winger like hannity or beck.
benson, DH would be more agreeable with Greta if she looked more like Martha Cougar