Register to leave a comment, or log in if you already have an account
I doubt Obama was taking religious instruction from Alinsky, and if he was, he wouldn’t have spent so much time in a church that it got him into hot water during the campaign.
But since you are so convinced he is a-religious, are you ready to spar with those on the right who continue to maintain that he is a muslim? Or those that say he has bought into liberation theology? Because if you believe he is opposed to religion, then he cannot be either of those other things that the right keeps saying or hinting that he is.
“we all know that President Obama is a disciple of Saul Aulinsky”
And you think I drank the Kool-aid? Do tell us how you have this special, intimate knowledge of the President- or is it you just want to believe every piece of right wing drek put out there?
I’m not claiming the president as anything. HE said he was a born-again Christian. I don’t see why anyone should doubt that. I didn’t doubt George Bush’s assertion of the same thing. Same with Bill Clinton. Faith is between a person and God. End of story, as far as I’m concerned.
One’s faith, or lack thereof, does not make one wise, honest, a tactical genius, a good president, or a bad one, for that matter. I don’t know when one’s faith had to be paraded around for inspection. I guess ever since Kennedy had to “prove” he wasn’t in the Vatican’s pocket (absurd as Obama “proving” he’s not a Muslim”) the American electorial arena has become a religious proving ground.
The worst decisions in mankind’s history have been made on the basis of religion. I would think we would have learned to keep it out of Constitutional politics. Bxgrl is right, whether or not a candidate is willing and able to govern according to the Constitution is all we should be holding them to, not their religious beliefs.
cobble,
let’s put it this way,
we all know that President Obama is a disciple of Saul Aulinsky.
Hell, he even taught courses on his beliefs.
We also know that Saul Aulinsky was a Marxist.
We also know that Marx believed religion to be the
“opiate of the masses”.
given that line of intellectual development,
where exactly do you see Mr. Obama pasting on true faith?
let’s get real.
again, it’s not necessarily a bad thing if the president weren’t religious. just intellectually dishonest.
“I only pointed out his seeming lack of religious
conviction.”
And your “evidence” of this was the purported freudian slip. I don’t get the sense that you are genuinely curious as to what his religious thoughts and beliefs are. This is about scoring political points.
I doubt Obama was taking religious instruction from Alinsky, and if he was, he wouldn’t have spent so much time in a church that it got him into hot water during the campaign.
But since you are so convinced he is a-religious, are you ready to spar with those on the right who continue to maintain that he is a muslim? Or those that say he has bought into liberation theology? Because if you believe he is opposed to religion, then he cannot be either of those other things that the right keeps saying or hinting that he is.
“we all know that President Obama is a disciple of Saul Aulinsky”
And you think I drank the Kool-aid? Do tell us how you have this special, intimate knowledge of the President- or is it you just want to believe every piece of right wing drek put out there?
Do you really, Cobble? I’m so proud of you.
(except I don’t approve of tattoos)
like a tramp stamp?
*rob*
Cobble, would need VISUAL verification. self-proclaimed stuff is not accepted.
I’m not claiming the president as anything. HE said he was a born-again Christian. I don’t see why anyone should doubt that. I didn’t doubt George Bush’s assertion of the same thing. Same with Bill Clinton. Faith is between a person and God. End of story, as far as I’m concerned.
One’s faith, or lack thereof, does not make one wise, honest, a tactical genius, a good president, or a bad one, for that matter. I don’t know when one’s faith had to be paraded around for inspection. I guess ever since Kennedy had to “prove” he wasn’t in the Vatican’s pocket (absurd as Obama “proving” he’s not a Muslim”) the American electorial arena has become a religious proving ground.
The worst decisions in mankind’s history have been made on the basis of religion. I would think we would have learned to keep it out of Constitutional politics. Bxgrl is right, whether or not a candidate is willing and able to govern according to the Constitution is all we should be holding them to, not their religious beliefs.
cobble,
let’s put it this way,
we all know that President Obama is a disciple of Saul Aulinsky.
Hell, he even taught courses on his beliefs.
We also know that Saul Aulinsky was a Marxist.
We also know that Marx believed religion to be the
“opiate of the masses”.
given that line of intellectual development,
where exactly do you see Mr. Obama pasting on true faith?
let’s get real.
again, it’s not necessarily a bad thing if the president weren’t religious. just intellectually dishonest.
“there’s gonna be alot of hairy palms come Monday.”–Christine O’Donnell will not approve of that behavior.
“I only pointed out his seeming lack of religious
conviction.”
And your “evidence” of this was the purported freudian slip. I don’t get the sense that you are genuinely curious as to what his religious thoughts and beliefs are. This is about scoring political points.