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Rob, it’s easy. Imagine walking home after a night out with friends, like last Thursday. The cops stop you on the corner and demand ID because you don’t look like you “belong” in Park Slope. You don’t have any ID because you left it in your bag on a couch at the bar. Your roommate’s not home to vouch for you, your cell phone is also at the bar, and you can’t remember anyone’s number. You have no relatives in the state. You can’t prove who you are, or where you live. The cops don’t like you anyway, because you gave them attitude, and one of them really hates you because you are gay, and you live in a neighborhood he wants to live in, but can’t afford. They aren’t going to check out your story. They rough you up and toss you in jail with truly scary people, and you can’t make bail. All because you didn’t have ID on you.
Now be Hispanic, don’t speak English too well, and live in Arizona.
Re: Arizona. Sort term, this is a disaster. Longer term, it raises the profile of immigration reform to one of a national status, since it is serious and has been ignored. This WILL get addressed, since Hispanics are the biggest block of “swing” voters in this country. And it WILL get addressed before the mid-term elections. Has anybody heard from Lou Dobbs lately?????? Also, re constitutionality, this will get struck down.
cobble- I know you tend to confuse MM and I (how does that happen? me: short, white, MM: Tall, Black 😉 but i said that. See if I ever offer to taste test for you again! >:[
again, like i said, i couldnt give a crap if 500,000,000 mexicans invaded right this second and squatted in everyones buildings and used tax payer services. whatever. but apparently a lot of people DO care, and they have the right to care, just like you have the right to oppose it.
Arizona will lose GOBS of convention and tourism money over this if this stupid law is enacted
it’s unconstitutional and I believe the SC will overturn it
You’d think those who are constantly complaining that the government is intruding too much into people’s lives would be all up in arms over the “right” to demand someone’s papers in Arizona. Of course it’s racial profiling. They would never ask Rob for papers, or anyone white, probably not anyone black either, for that matter. This is purely aimed at Hispanics, and it’s wrong, and unconstitutional.
Do we want to be in a state in the USAa where someone can come up to you and demand “Papers”, like South Africa during apartheid? Or, yes, I’m going there, Nazi Germany? It’s disgusting. This one will end up before the Supreme Court, and they should overturn it. It has nothing to do with border control, or anything that will solve abuses of immigration.
Rob, it’s easy. Imagine walking home after a night out with friends, like last Thursday. The cops stop you on the corner and demand ID because you don’t look like you “belong” in Park Slope. You don’t have any ID because you left it in your bag on a couch at the bar. Your roommate’s not home to vouch for you, your cell phone is also at the bar, and you can’t remember anyone’s number. You have no relatives in the state. You can’t prove who you are, or where you live. The cops don’t like you anyway, because you gave them attitude, and one of them really hates you because you are gay, and you live in a neighborhood he wants to live in, but can’t afford. They aren’t going to check out your story. They rough you up and toss you in jail with truly scary people, and you can’t make bail. All because you didn’t have ID on you.
Now be Hispanic, don’t speak English too well, and live in Arizona.
By bxgrl on April 28, 2010 1:31 PM
“me: short, white, MM: Tall, Black ”
Both Pompous Asshats.
Re: Arizona. Sort term, this is a disaster. Longer term, it raises the profile of immigration reform to one of a national status, since it is serious and has been ignored. This WILL get addressed, since Hispanics are the biggest block of “swing” voters in this country. And it WILL get addressed before the mid-term elections. Has anybody heard from Lou Dobbs lately?????? Also, re constitutionality, this will get struck down.
cobble- I know you tend to confuse MM and I (how does that happen? me: short, white, MM: Tall, Black 😉 but i said that. See if I ever offer to taste test for you again! >:[
again, like i said, i couldnt give a crap if 500,000,000 mexicans invaded right this second and squatted in everyones buildings and used tax payer services. whatever. but apparently a lot of people DO care, and they have the right to care, just like you have the right to oppose it.
*rob*
Arizona will lose GOBS of convention and tourism money over this if this stupid law is enacted
it’s unconstitutional and I believe the SC will overturn it
My position on this Arizona issue:
-the law Arizona passed (regarding papers) is a direct copy of one already on the federal books.
-having said that, this is a federal issue, not one for the states. As such, I expect the law will be knocked out by the Supreme Court.
If the federal government would do something about securing our borders and stopping illegal immigration, this issue would go away.
There are huge movements to boycott Arizona now.
You’d think those who are constantly complaining that the government is intruding too much into people’s lives would be all up in arms over the “right” to demand someone’s papers in Arizona. Of course it’s racial profiling. They would never ask Rob for papers, or anyone white, probably not anyone black either, for that matter. This is purely aimed at Hispanics, and it’s wrong, and unconstitutional.
Do we want to be in a state in the USAa where someone can come up to you and demand “Papers”, like South Africa during apartheid? Or, yes, I’m going there, Nazi Germany? It’s disgusting. This one will end up before the Supreme Court, and they should overturn it. It has nothing to do with border control, or anything that will solve abuses of immigration.