What the Heck Is Going On in Carroll Gardens?
This is getting weird. Despite a softening market all around, there’s been a rash of new listings in Carroll Gardens that have defied all logic and precedent. Starting with 44 1st Place (which in retrospect is probably the best deal of the lot) for $3,842,500, they’ve just kept coming: A 3,100-square-foot house at 78 3rd…
This is getting weird. Despite a softening market all around, there’s been a rash of new listings in Carroll Gardens that have defied all logic and precedent. Starting with 44 1st Place (which in retrospect is probably the best deal of the lot) for $3,842,500, they’ve just kept coming: A 3,100-square-foot house at 78 3rd Place for $3,495,000? A 16-foot-wide one at 40 2nd Place for $2,800,000? And now a three-story house at 329 President Street for a $3,600,000? What is going on here? One common denominator: Corcoran is the listing agent on all these places except for 1st Place. Coincidence or conspiracy?
329 President Street [Corcoran] GMAP
HOTD: 40 2nd Place [Brownstoner]
HOTD: 78 3rd Place [Brownstoner]
HOTD: 44 1st Place [Brownstoner]
Parents have the opportunity to play a big role in early childhood education too, 12:32. You don’t just toss the ball to the public school system. Talk about a formula for failure. As for writing off all children for life, whose families aren’t wealthy enough to buy or rent a place in these so-called perfect school districts, that’s disgusting. I know so many people who came from tough backgrounds and tough schools and really made something of themselves. Very intelligent people. It’s really unfortunate you’ve never even met anyone like that.
12:35
Obviously you are not sick of discussing Carroll Gardens. You just brought it up.
i think cg is a hoax.
the neighborhood doesn’t even really exist.
apparently there are no starbucks in the hood, in which case, perhaps the entire area is just a figment of our own imaginations.
People–it’s not about whether Carroll Gardens is a good neighborhood or not. CG is great–sure! But a 16′ wide, 3-story house with one of the most mediocre and tacky renovations I’ve seen is NOT WORTH ANYWHERE NEAR ITS INSANE asking price of $3.6 million. It’s so absurd that it makes me think it is a fake listing, a hoax or some sort of scam.
Is anyone else sick to death of talking about Carroll Gardens?
I know I am.
I love the neighborhood whether Starbucks is one inch or out, as long as there are rice balls, the ability to leave doors unlocked in the daytime, and an 11 minute subway ride to Soho. But I see equal plusses in each these other neighborhoods, better values…and a few worse.
hmm,As for the politics and schools of the neighborhood:
25 years in Brooklyn and I have heard a racist pro-Bush argument in every neighborhood: Passing the Park Slop Co-op, outside Lesbian bars, and next to bi-racial couples. Perhaps the most important education for kids is their hearing this real world thinking and parents discussing. Anyone with any research in edju-macation knows that without a good early childhood education all of the rest becomes nearly impossible. That said most of these neighborhoods have some good schools with some very good teachers. Finding and getting kids into the classes of those teachers make more sense than spending 3 Million or 0.5 million.
As for those new CG prices, the only people who are going to pay any of the numbers you are seeing are foreigners (foreign from US or NYC) who buy into the collusion, or Hollywood stars who can buy with one film’s salary and need not worry about the 30-40 years rent needed to recoup. Otherwise the building will sell for 50% of the price. The real price is what someone pays. I suspect the agents get the property by saying these figures are possible and then becoming real after a few weeks. You don’t see any actual sales for these per sq. ft charges. Tax values just went out and they went down from last year!
>> And no, the Smith Street Starbucks is not in Carroll Gardens, although there is also one on Court which is a bit closer.
It’s a block farther away.
Can we please keep our rage focused on Corcoran? I still can’t figure out the game here. The houses sit and sit, the owners can’t be happy, the brokers looks stupid, who wins? You’re going to pay a million more for CG over Tompkins Place? That is utter insanity.
12:18
“I was walking by Po the other night (or is that not in Carroll Gardens either now, 12:10?) and these two guys were walking behind two hispanic men screaming out and taunting them with racial slurs.
They laughed as they taunted them saying to them “get the hell out of our neighborhood you ______”
Its funny, I left CG and now live in Clinton Hill. Now its the Hisapnic men who say the same about me, taunting me with gentrifier slurs.
Which is better? Hard to say.