What the Heck Is Going On in Carroll Gardens?
This is getting weird. Despite a softening market all around, there’s been a rash of new listings in Carroll Gardens that have defied all logic and precedent. Starting with 44 1st Place (which in retrospect is probably the best deal of the lot) for $3,842,500, they’ve just kept coming: A 3,100-square-foot house at 78 3rd…
This is getting weird. Despite a softening market all around, there’s been a rash of new listings in Carroll Gardens that have defied all logic and precedent. Starting with 44 1st Place (which in retrospect is probably the best deal of the lot) for $3,842,500, they’ve just kept coming: A 3,100-square-foot house at 78 3rd Place for $3,495,000? A 16-foot-wide one at 40 2nd Place for $2,800,000? And now a three-story house at 329 President Street for a $3,600,000? What is going on here? One common denominator: Corcoran is the listing agent on all these places except for 1st Place. Coincidence or conspiracy?
329 President Street [Corcoran] GMAP
HOTD: 40 2nd Place [Brownstoner]
HOTD: 78 3rd Place [Brownstoner]
HOTD: 44 1st Place [Brownstoner]
If all neighborhoods were Brooklyn Heights folks would still find a way to highlight differences. Unfortunate.
Never mind me at 12:14, I see now I missed the sarcasm in 12:10’s post. SOrry!
Okay rabidly defensive Park Sloper at 12:11, when did I say all of Park Slope was not worth living in?
How about never?
I said PS 321 and CG was more expensive than other school districts and I questioned whether in the long view, it was worth it for a young family to blow the bank and overextend themselves to buy a place just because of 5 years of school.
Now take your pill, please.
Too hilarious. And 12:10 is accusing others of “pretending” about borders?
So desperate.
Park Slope is nowhere near the Gowanus Canal. From these posts we see Carroll Gardens residents are mentally deficient. And tell us how good their schools are again?
People who think Park Slope is ONLY expensive because of PS. 321 need to go back to elementary school themselves, because it is MORONIC!
Last time I checked, it was high school and college that made ANY difference in a person’s life.
NO ONE GIVES TWO SHITS ABOUT ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
You are just so ignorant that you can’t admit that Park Slope is a nice neighborhood.
In a city of 8.25 million people, living next to the most beautiful park in the city is worth the price of admission in its own right.
Then there’s the fact that it’s the largest intact enclave of late 19th century architecture in the country. Oh and the restaurants and shops are pretty ok. The neighborhood recycles more than any in the entire city. The sense of community is astounding, even if a tad overwhelming at times. The freakin school is like one of 10 amazing things about the neighborhood but to suggest that it’s the only reason the neighborhood is expensive, means you are one bitter soul.
But 12:05, the attitude 11:51 shows, is exactly what people are pointing out about the old Italian neighborhoods. This is what not just the older residents are like, but their offspring too. You hear those same attitudes in the kids and teenagers, the 3rd generation. They don’t frequent the hipster coffeeshops, you don’t see them every day, but they are most definitely there. And their kids are in the schools. Bringing their families’ perspectives to share with the other kids.
My impression is that many CG oldtimers are conservative but there are plenty of liberal folks too–just check the political contribution sites. Many of the people who bought in Cobble Hill in the 60s, 70s, 80s seem kinda liberal hippie-ish to me. There is no doubt that Fort Greene is way more diverse ethnically. I agree with that.
12:04 if you know so much, what is the cross st. of that Starbucks?
Sure, you can pretend Bergen Street is within the border of Carroll Gardens, just like you can pretend Bed Stuy is within the border of Fort Greene. What’s the point?
If you don’t like Carroll Gardens because it is less liberal than Park Slope, that’s fine — you are very likely correct. But why try to make your argument with inaccurate information like the Starbucks one.
OK, I don’t like Park Slope because it’s too close to the Gowanus Canal and the poisons seep into the water. I can make up lots of reasons. But I’d rather use facts that are true.
Cobble HIll is usually defined as being the area between Atlantic and Degraw, Hicks and Smith. Some say Court instead of Smith because I believe the landmarking does not extend all the way to Smith. Carroll Gardens starts at Degraw and goes until you have to cross many lanes of traffic into Red Hook. Boerum Hill is the other side of Smith, except where is is called Gowanus. It all used to be South Brooklyn. That’s the best I can do! (And no, the Smith Street Starbucks is not in Carroll Gardens, although there is also one on Court which is a bit closer.)