Sales on the Fringe
We missed this when it ran late last week, but the NY Post posted some updates on how condo sales are progressing at some developments on the fringe of popular neighborhoods in Brooklyn. As Roberta Benzilio of Halstead Properties says, “It used to be that people sought a certain neighborhood. But now… people will go…
We missed this when it ran late last week, but the NY Post posted some updates on how condo sales are progressing at some developments on the fringe of popular neighborhoods in Brooklyn. As Roberta Benzilio of Halstead Properties says, “It used to be that people sought a certain neighborhood. But now… people will go where the value is. Case in point: at 500 4th Avenue, which “considers itself Park Slope,” 80 of the 156 units are under contract or sold and 60 units have been occupied. Average prices there have come out around $700 per square foot. One Hanson Place, despite its location across from the Atlantic Center Mall and the Atlantic Yards site, is down to its last eight condos. And Solis, at 174 Clermont, sold eight of its nine condo units in five weeks, at an average price of $650 per square foot. And that is six blocks away from the G train!
The “Neighborhoods of Brooklyn” book says that Cobble Hill is BQE to Court and Atlantic to Degraw, but I have found cases in that book where neighborhood lines were drawn so that some blocks did not belong to any neighborhood.
Re: 1 Hanson Pl. (and all of Fort Greene, Clinton Hill, etc.). Depends on your defintion of “fringe.” Very often the mere sight of people of different skin color from that of a buyer = fringe. I find it’s a code word, like a “safe” neighborhood.
and there is a weird map in the bank of america on bergen and flatbush that has named Prospect Heights “Adelphi.” very strange.
I thought Cobble Hill still ends at Degraw St. Where would you put its southern border now?
It is Gowanus.
I agree, Benson. I have a map of Brooklyn in my office. It’s from a 1962 article in the Brooklyn World Telegram and Sun, and it’s entitled “This is Brooklyn. 44 Communities: Which of Them is YOUR Home?” It does not include Carroll Gardens or Sunset Park at all. Cobble Hill is on there, but it’s tiny (ending at Degraw St.), and Park Slope is bordered by Fifth Ave. “Downtown” stretches all the way to Grand Army Plaza, and “South Brooklyn” is huge, encompassing what is now Gowanus and Sunset Park.
Neighborhood boundaries are constantly changing, and what some consider “fringe” now will be tomorrow’s hip area. No point in arguing about it.
hey benson, as you know I go in and out of office buildings all day and I have to show my DL to get in…. every so often there’s some old Irish ex-cop in security and he looks at my addy and either says, ‘hah, South Brooklyn’ or ‘hah, Bishop Ford.’
Never Park Slope, South SLope, or Greenwood.
I’m not even sure you could call the “toren” fringe anymore but certainly not one hanson place or 4th avenue. The area was packed with folks satuday and sunday afternoons.
“but it is NOT Park Slope, and will never be Park Slope”
Stargazer;
Ridiculous statement. Neighborhood names and boundaries are always changing in Brooklyn. Fourty years ago Park Slope only went down to 6th Ave. Fifty years ago, today’s Carroll Gardens, Cobble Hll, Gowanus and Park Slope from 4th to 6th Ave were known simply as one neighborhood: South Brooklyn.
Who died and made you the arbiter of neighborhood names?