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A victim of the downturn? Given the timing and circumstances of this new listing at 370 Clinton Street in Cobble Hill, it sounds like the seller is in trouble. She closed on the 6,000-square-foot house last September for $2,650,000 and in the last four months has gutted the interior and commissioned complete architectural drawings for a planned make-over. The plans are part of the package for anyone willing to come up with the asking price of $2,995,000. It is a pretty exciting opportunity for someone who wants to create a living space from scratch: great location, beautiful shell. The only question: Price.
370 Clinton Street [Corcoran] GMAP P*Shark


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  1. Read the articles, Sam.

    You can “think” all you want, but I’m providing you with facts.

    There are many factors that go into the carbon footprint ratings, if you read the article. It’s not just about shipping food.

    Manhattan is an island. Everything is shipped here through small bridges and tunnels.

    Again, read the articles. Homes sizes are absolutely decreasing.

  2. 11217, I don’t think there is any reliable data that’s so current to include the current recession or the effect of oil having shot up to $140 per barrel and people all of a sudden becoming more “green.”

  3. Home sizes have gotten out of control, but that will all reverse with a return to urbanization. See End of Suburbia. People will not be able to afford/sustain suburbanization in the future and I believe home sizes will finally start decreasing.

    According to Wikipedia:

    Average home size in the US in 1950 and today:
    in 1950: 983 ; in 2004: 2,349

    NPR – National Association of Home Builders citation [1]

  4. Homes are getting smaller?
    That’s a new fact I had not heard.
    New Yorkers have always lived cramped, but outside New York City, it’s big big big.

    Also I doubt very much that people in Honolulu have a smaller carbon footprint on average than New Yorkers, for one thing, they live in the middle of the Pacific Ocean and most of the things they use, eat, and wear has to be flown or shipped thousands and thousands of miles.

  5. Dave,

    You can do whatever you want, but it’s my impression that homes are getting smaller because of the economy and because people are wanting to be more environmentally conscious. I guess smaller families might play a part too.

    I don’t know what planet Sam lives on, but 3000 sf was and IS a huge amount of space for 4 people. Maybe not for the brownstoner crowd, but in the REAL world, 3000 is considered huge, by most accounts.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Say-goodbye-McMansions-homes-getting/story.aspx?guid={AADD01FF-CCEC-4B22-9328-042B81EB6F23}

  6. i don’t have a problem with the purposed layout, for a one family. however, like brg said, i would switch the master to the 3rd floor & have kids above. personally i would make the garden a rental or ‘in-law suite’. the house is large enough to have all of the bedrooms on one floor and have at least 2 bathrooms – one for the master and one for kids/guests. i love one families and a 2 car gargage is great but i would miss having a garden.

    that being said – way out of my price range anyway – good luck to the seller!

  7. 11217, the average US home size is decreasing because the size of an average family has decreased and the population is aging.

    Please at least grant me the fact that one can have as much space as one can afford, within architectural and geographical limits.

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