Condo of the Day: 335 Warren Street, #102
If StreetEasy is to be believed, this duplex at 335 Warren Street was initially priced at $975,000 when the new development hit the market back in 2007. By now, the other seven units in the condo have been sold and it looks like the developer just wants to sell this thing and be done. The…
If StreetEasy is to be believed, this duplex at 335 Warren Street was initially priced at $975,000 when the new development hit the market back in 2007. By now, the other seven units in the condo have been sold and it looks like the developer just wants to sell this thing and be done. The oddly-configured apartment (one bedroom, three bathrooms, a separate studio space) has almost 2,500 square feet of indoor space plus a decent-sized terrace and, as of last week, is now asking just $699,000. It’s not for everyone, clearly, but seems to be a decent value at this price. Do you agree?
335 Warren Street, #102 [Brooklyn Heights RE] GMAP P*Shark
Checking In On The Warren Lofts [Brownstoner]
I can’t figure out the floorplan any better than the next guy/gal! Oh, well. No great loss!
im not so sure pigeon.. most of the NYCHA buildings really do have a one strike and youre out rule. i guess maybe you are right tho about tenant rights and stuff and it might be harder to evict, but sadly if you think about it, the only people hurting from evictions are the kids (young ones) that live there. so maybe it isnt a terrible thing that tenants do have rights. it wasnt much long ago that many project buildings were seriously dangerous to live in when it comes to vermin, no heat (tho im against heat but whatever), non working stoves/fridges, etc. i remember the 80s (north jersey only got nyc metro news for the most part) and the exposes on the projects, slumlords, etc.
sometimes it might come across that im anti people in the projects, but that isnt really the case.. i think they do work when they are used for for temporary help for families in particular. when it becomes a generaltional poverty thing you have to re-evaluate the system. it’s not PC to say but i think that having kids should not be rewarded, but then again the kids didnt ask to be be born, so of course you have to make sure they are okay. it’s a very difficult that many big cities deal with and especially the inner city of cities. also people get weirdo on buildings (big ones) in the park type of architectuer and concentrated poverty, but they really CAN work. i find the plight of a lot of people in the suburbs of long island, new jersey, etc who once lived in okay neighborhoods only to be destroyed with section 8 housing. families that lived in decent neighborhoods who can not afford to move to the bigger cities, families who family probably were whiet flight people. whe whole thing is kinda f-cked up. i do think tho that nyc is an amazing city when it really does come to diversity and i dont say that with a phony voice like i think many people do.
hopefully we can try to keep nyc being diverse, but i wont hold my breath. it’s almost 2010 and people still think the color of their skin actually means something (which duh it does to some extent), but not when it comes to living near each other. we have a president that is half black and half white. even tho i think he blows, it’s a good thing. maybe in the next decade we will have an indian (asian) tranny female president with a vice president who is in a wheel chaiir and 1/2 alien. who knows! i wish my grandfather was still alive, i lovoed him dearly but he was a horrible racist. when i finally came out of the closet and admitted it to my grandparents he was like oh that’s cool blah blah blah, what was he REALLY gonna say? that he hated gay people? no.
*rob*
sorry for the for the long rant, it’s been a long day.
i visited several apt in this building a year ago… crazy town all around. really hard to figure out how to use all the space. that is, it’s ‘too much’ space for one person (still hard to make sense of it), totally weird for a family. Also, i remember deadly steep staircases. it’s hard to price this kind of properties — it does provide ‘space’ for cheaper than other alternatives, but I think the extra money you re investing in getting more straightforward floorplans you ll get back several fold when you sell back. Not to mention that it takes a pretty creative mind / desperate for value for money type of buyer to go for really tough floor plans. This is one of them.
*rob*, great post at 5:03
Rob,
Your story is interesting.
I don’t know much about NYCHA projects nor about section 8 housing. I’ve lived in neither. Mostly I know just what I see from the outside.
Of course most of the people who live in NYCHA projects and in section 8 housing are fine people. But a small percent of the residents can make things difficult for everyone else.
I do know that it used to be very easy for NYCHA to evict troublesome tenents from housing projects. But a lawsuit about 30 or 35 years ago resulted in NYCHA tenants being afforded the same protections as other tenants. While this is a benefit to the tenants (they gained protection against eviction), it became very difficult for the NYCHA to evict troublesome tenants. So, the long term result of the lawsuit is the quality of life in NYCHA projects decreased dramatically.
rob- yes, actually sometimes we do :-). And by the way- that was a good post.
i could be basing my theories on section 8 (HUD in jersey) and actual projects from my time in jersey than. ive never actually been inside any actual projects in nyc but have been in a lot of section 8 buildings, so maybe my view is different than what you have experienced.
with the projects you do get more gang related activity but that is mostly due to kids, but less rampant drug use. with section 8 housing a lot of landlords turn a blind eye as to who the tenants on the actual lease let move in and section 8 housing has a tendency to harbor more drug deals, users, etc. i know this for a fact in nyc. in jersey it was slightly similar but the projects and HUD housing was a lot more truly diverse racially so wouldnt get a bad rep, whehter deserved or not. does that even make any sense what i just said?
sadly, one of the projects i did grow up in as a kid for a few years known as the white people projects.. definitely had a descriminatory practice of letting people in. not cool at all. and yes, they were just as miserable to grow up in as any projects that are mostly minority. the name of the development was meadowview village. and they actually had lil mini brownstones on one side of the block, like little townhouses. we lived in the actual apt buildings tho. i tried to google street view the place recently with little luck, how does google streetview work exactly?
i have a lot of interesting information that i gleaned growing up in the projects in jersey, and sometimes people dont give me the benefit of the doubt because they think that im “immature” etc, but that’s really not the case at all.
i’ve learned so much random stuff from people on this website and i always thought that people do from me as well.
*rob*
“youre also 10x worse off living near a building that has a ton of section 8 apartments than actual NYC housing projects. NYCHA is pretty hardcore about the rules of who can live there whereas private landlords who allow section 8 aren’t.”
*rob*
Posted by: Butterfly at December 14, 2009 4:28 PM
Interesting theory, but that doesn’t match my experience. NYCHA projects seem worse than section 8 housing. NYCHA projects are the “housing of last resort.” It is difficult to evict a NYCHA tenant. And the NYCHA buildings tend to have a very large number of units; they tend to be larger than section 8 housing. They can be overwhelming.
That said, the Boerum projects are not overwhelming. The services surrounding them, though, are weak.
I think it says 1 full bath and 2 half baths.
And not ‘5 steps to projects’. If being close to projects is important you can find closer. Closer to Smith St. end of block but if want to visit someone in projects that is farther end away from shops and subway.