tiling whole floor instead of hardwood

thanks cate. the only thing they did right in these 1920’s queens houses.

stevecym

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thompson.molly99 | 4 years and 9 months ago

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I currently have hardwood floors but don’t like the color and shape of them. Do you think its a good idea I should strip it and put tiles all over the house?

stevecym | 4 years and 9 months ago

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this is a matter of personal choice but i would not do it. i have been in houses where people have lain tile through out and i have nothing good to say about it. its worse than the ‘burbs where i grew up and some people put wall to wall carpet down.

keep in mind, tiling over something like old flooring might not go as easy as you think. it might not be a matter of stripping the floor (what ever that means) and laying tile. it might mean ripping the old floor out and and laying a new sub floor and laying tile on that.

large area rugs might be a better way to go. and you can change the look with area rugs – you can go traditional or modern.

i would not rip or permanantly cover and wood flooring in any house that is in good condition because that is the reason a lot of the people living in these houses buy these houses; because of the wood floors.

RobertGMarvin

in General Discussion 4 years and 9 months ago

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Also keep in mind that you can have your existing hardwood floors sanded and stained a different color.

thompson.molly99 | 4 years and 9 months ago

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you are right Mr. @Bob Marvin. Any ideas on what color this is? [Screen Shot 2020-11-25 at 1](//muut.com/u/brownstoner/s1/:brownstoner:rcNi:screenshot20201125at1.59.44pm.png.jpg)

thompson.molly99 | 4 years and 9 months ago

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https://imgur.com/a/g4YKvvv

RobertGMarvin

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What color? From a screenshot?

thompson.molly99 | 4 years and 9 months ago

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like oak/white ash

RobertGMarvin

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I guess that’s as good a description as any; you’ll have to compare it to whatever color charts the re-finisher you choose uses. It’s very light; perhaps the existing wood would have to be bleached after sanding to achieve a color like that?

stevecym | 4 years and 9 months ago

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It was not bleached. It is white oak and it most likely has water base poly on it, un tinted.

It can be sanded and stained to any color. If you chose to sand it and simply put oil poly on it it would come out a light honey color and would age to an amber.

You are lucky to have that floor. People pay a lot of money for it.

stevecym | 4 years and 9 months ago

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I see some flaking in a board as if at least one piece is quarter or rift sawn. Common to see on oaks.

RobertGMarvin

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Steve—my impression was that the OP was trying to achieve that light color on an existing floor. Perhaps I’m wrong.

thompson.molly99 | 4 years and 9 months ago

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correct, they are currently dark red, I want them to be white/oak

stevecym | 4 years and 9 months ago

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Ok, first. You should find out what you have in so far as wood. I will not be able to tell by a photo here. Even in person, I may not know for sure unless I can look at the end grain. If it is white oak, and by far most of the old wood is NOT white oak, you can sand it and it will lighten. If it is red oak and you sand it and put water base poly on it, it will lighten far over the dark amber of the old varnish but it will not become what you have in the photo. Even in my house, we have red oak and sometimes I wish to brighten the place up and think about sanding this off and going with water base poly which so long as it is not tinted, will go on clear. But red oak will still cast a pinkish hue. I redid mine in my kitchen using water but the poly I used is tinted and I cannot recall if I laid white or red oak -the graining looks red- but because of the uncertainty of the wood and with the tinted water poly, I cannot give you a good comparison photo.

stevecym | 4 years and 9 months ago

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This is the landing in my house. In front of the landing is the old varnished red oak. The first step is recently refinished red oak with an un tinted water poly on it. For red oak, it does not have that heavy pink hue. Look at the landing. In the middle of the band is red oak I laid down and probably coated with tinted basic coatings. Look at the outer band, that is 1920s wood which I sanded off with a hand held ro sander. Not too heavy. I coated it with the same poly as used in the middle. It retains more of the dark color as I did not sand as heavy as I did on the first step. Some of this is a crap shoot. Some can be controlled by sanding better and using a modern drum sander will remove all of the old varnish on the face but you can be left with some between the boards or in deep cuts.

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If you appreciate my efforts, be lucky I am not allowed in the kitchen today.

Not sure the photo attached. If I cant get it, one of the younger ones will help later

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Let me add this: the first step is light colored red oak. The coloring of red oak is very random and if you sand a floor it will not all be this light.

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https://www.bona.com/Bona-Professional/Products/Coatings/Oils–Waxes/Bona-Nordic-Tone/

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Boo have you used it? I googled it with make red oak look like white oak and the search not only prepopulated but returned a lot of good results.

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https://imgur.com/a/xLz9aeH this what it looks like now