msbrooklyn0707c.jpgSarah Ryley over at the Brooklyn Eagle‘s been digging through the recently-released Atlantic Yards documents and finding some interesting things. In an article online yesterday, she wrote that the Forest City Ratner would be selling the rights to build a hotel within Miss Brooklyn for $28.8 million. “Basically, it’s eminent domain being used to give the land to Ratner for free,” commented Dan Goldstein. “Then he gets to sell it, which again is pure profit to him as opposed to the state and the city. In a separate article, Ryley also notes that less than 10 percent of the first-phase apartments—143 out of 1,580—will be low-income units. Another 216 apartments will be for middle-income earners. “The so-called moderate-income properties are way beyond the incomes of the vast majority of residents in my district, so to call those units affordable is laughable,” said City Council Member Letitia James.
Ratner May Net $30 Million On Sale of Arena Hotel [Brooklyn Eagle]
Few Affordable Apartments for First AY Tower [Brooklyn Eagle]


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  1. That may be, but look at the numbers. Black people are a minority in this country, and had been kept out of the best universities for many years. they came in, often under hostile conditions, had to work harder and try harder. True there may have been years where no Blacks (or Jews, or buddhists or Native Americans) were awarded PHD’s- but the sciences are not the only fields Black people go into. So you’re talking about a numerically smaller group spread out over a bigger area of endeavor. And there are economic factors- getting a PHD is exspensive, and a committment of many years. Many Black students are in college through grants, scholarships and loans but having a child in college can take a bigger toll on a Black family as the median income for Black families has historically been lower than for whites. So many simply can’t afford to go on after a BA of a Masters.

    Any statistician will readily admit to how easy it is to manipulate numbers (heck, bookkeepers do it all the time) but City Boy just loves to twist it to confirm his theories of racial superiority. He wants you to think that Black people are incapable, you know- just like him.

    Sure it’s sad that there aren’t more, but there are many more than CIty Boy wants to believe. And thousands with PHD’s in other fields. No one, least of all someone like City Boy, can take that away from them. I don’t think success is measured by how many people graduate i any one year- its measured by what they do in their careers- and having read up on quite a few i can say what they’ve done has been very very impressive.

  2. Beeotch, you wrote that City Boy’s stats are “dead wrong”. Could you elaborate?

    I looked at an article in The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education and City Boy is pretty much on the nose. According to the article, there were no blacks that were awarded a doctoral degree in many scientific fields such as Mathmatical Statistics, Optical Physics, Astrophysics, Nuclear Engineering, Number Theory, etc. as recently as 2004 (the latest data they had).

    And last time I checked (and verified by a Princeton study), black people have a FAR easier time getting into college and grad schools than whites/Asians.

  3. That’s nothing. Take Yale’s Neurobiology program.

    In the department’s near 30 year history, only ONE black person (a black woman) has ever obtained a doctorate. And that was this year.

  4. Beeotch, City Boy’s data is (sadly) correct.

    There have been years when no there are no Blacks awarded a PhD in scientific fields. When I was an undergrad at MIT back in the late 90’s, the fact that there was a black women getting a Chemistry PhD was huge news. Out of the 500 or so PhD’s awarded that year, she was the only Black woman to receive one–and only the 4th in MIT history.

    I doubt there have been many more.

  5. city Boy- with ignorance as extensive as yours and with a mind so incapable of comprehension, it is quite a job to try to deal with such immense and overwhelming bigotry. As I said, I left out many many people and in fact concentrated on those whose contibutions in the past had a great deal of determination in how we live today. And only in the US with one exception. SO my omissions do not prove any of your points but instead point up the fact that the list of Black men and women who have contributed greatly to the world si so extensive as to be impossible to list in entirety.Something you will never be capable of.

    If you could understand what you read, you would have understood that Randolph was a labor activist whose work during the WWII era had a lasting impact on fair Labor Practices which affects everyone.
    Henson- a “Hiker”? – Obviously you owuldn’t understand the concept of human endeavor and how it affects civilization- exploration, chanllenges,knowledge, the humanities, the arts etc. But the point you still know who Edmund Hillary, Peary, and- yes- Henson- is- How come? Henson will be remembered as the man who first walked on the top of the world,- and you will be remembered as an ignorant, stupid little twit who puffs himself up on a real estate blog by posting what he thinks are deeply thought out philosophical treatises. If anyone remembers you at all.

    So Let me stop laughing long enough to point something else out to you- in 1875 Black people had it far harder in terms of getting into Harvard and yale and other colleges than they do today. The very fact that this man acheived what he did is an impressive and powerful testament to him. And by the way you are dead wrong on your stats.But I doubt you managed to do any research on that other than a quick peak at KKK “A history of the glorious white race in America”- Oh wait. Let me explain- that’s sarcasm. wasn’t sure you got that.

    As for this comment” Meanwhile, it’s also worth noting that the handful of black innovators in the world have lived in the US. Not Africa. Thus, it’s quite clear that slavery had its upside. ” What can I possibly say? That one statement alone expresses far more about the quality of human being you are. I assume you are proud to be the descendent of slave owners and genocidal maniacs. Please do not talk about Jews or pretend you admire us. You are simply embarrassing and I have to tell you- you are the last person to tell me or anyone about the “Jewish experience.” I know which side of the concentration camp fence you would have been on.

    go back to school kid- start in the first grade, get your basics and if your iq is high enough, get your ged. But please stop with the intellectual pretensions (ohhh, Mark twain!) because while those people on my list are still remembered for their contrbutions,what will you be remembered for? Nothing.And that about sums you up.

  6. Beeotch, a few points:

    Philip Emeagwali is a fraud. Apparently everyone but you knows this.

    A more important point. Virtually every notable black you mentioned lived in the 19th century. Why is that?

    Moreover, if you list the names of ALL notable blacks, you will find they lived a long time ago. And, that there were not many.

    Furthermore, as Mark Twain might have said, some of the stories about the blacks you mentioned are “stretchers.”

    But, assume all the credit you want. The fact remains that very few patents are awarded to blacks. This is an unfortunate reality, but no matter how angry you get, the facts will stand.

    Meanwhile, it’s also worth noting that the handful of black innovators in the world have lived in the US. Not Africa. Thus, it’s quite clear that slavery had its upside.

    Did you notice that your list of black innovators does not include anyone who lived before the 19th century? That makes it obvious that black innovation was non-existent before blacks were forced to the US.

    You cited:

    “Matthew Alexander Henson (1866-1955)
    Arctic Explorer with Adm Peary”

    Whoa. A hiker. Yeah, that’s an achievement. Edmund Hillary was the first person to reach the summit of Mt Everest. In the course of human existence, reaching that mountain peak means exactly NOTHING.

    You cited:

    “A. Philip Randolph :an African American labor leader (in 1937). In 1941 he conceived a march on Washington, DC, to protest exclusion of African American workers from defense jobs.”

    Wow. An activist. Once again, inconsequential impact. Not an innovator. A fine person, no doubt. But organizing a march isn’t much of anything.

    YOu cited:

    “In 1875 the first Black physicist graduated from Yale university.”

    So what? One? I hate to break it to you, but almost no blacks receive Ph.Ds in math, physics or chemistry. Some years not a single Ph.D. is awarded to a black candidates in those fields.

    You mentioned:

    “(Perhaps not as major as Hitler…”

    There are 15 million Jews in the world today. Hitler exterminated 6 million. Have you ever heard of Jews claiming they’re unable to achieve because Hitler almost wiped them out?

    If you need examples of how hardships are overcome, and how to climb the intellectual ladder, check the Jewish experience throughout history. For more recent examples, see the advances of Asians in this country. Their achievements should make every American proud.

  7. City Boy- you are so far over the racist edge i wouldn’t know where to begin. “Sorry, but if there’s one statement that sums up black history, it’s that blacks have had virtually no impact on the intellectual advances of the world. ” It’s unbelieveable that you can claim to have any moral, intellectual or educational superioritywhen you lack of all of them make you such a prime example ignorance. In 1875 the first Black physicist graduated from Yale university. And just for your edification here is a very very incomplete list of Black people who have had major impacts on the world (Perhaps not as major as Hitler- but who wants to be in that league except you?):Dr. Daniel Hale Williams:he performed the first successful open heart surgery in 1893.

    Dr. Charles Richard Drew: system for storing blood plasma became known as the blood bank and revolutionized the medical profession. established the American Red Cross blood bank and organized the world’s first blood bank drive.

    Norbert rillieux (1806-1894): developed an evaporator for refining sugar, patented in 1846. Rillieux’s evaporation technique is still used in the sugar industry and in the manufacture of soap and other products.

    Benjamin Bradley:A slave, Bradley was employed at a printing office and later at the Annapolis Naval Academy In the 1840s he developed a steam engine for a war ship. Unable to patent his work, he sold it and with the proceeds purchased his freedom.

    Lewis Howard Latimer:invented an electric lamp and a carbon filament for light bulbs (patented 1881, 1882).

    Garrett Augustus Morgan:invented a gas mask (patented 1914) that was used to protect soldiers from chlorine fumes during World War I.

    Frederick McKinley Jones:invented the first automatic refrigeration system for long-haul trucks (1935).

    Henrietta Mahim Bradberry: invented a device that operated pneumatically and was adapted to discharge torpedoes under the water surface.

    Patricia Bath, M.D.
    the first African-American woman doctor to receive a patent for a procedure to remove cataract lenses, transforming eye surgery by using a laser device. With another invention, Bath was able to restore sight to people who had been blind for more than 30 years.

    alvin Ailey, Dancer

    Matthew Alexander Henson (1866-1955)
    Arctic Explorer with Adm Peary

    Dr. Percy Lavon Julian (1899-1975)
    Scientist, Medical Researcher :developed synthetic cortisone. found a way to mass produce the drug physostigmine, used to treat glaucoma, and perfected the mass production of sex hormones which led the way to birth control pills.

    Jan Ernest Matzeliger (1852-1889)
    Inventor : invented a machine that revolutionized the shoe industry and enabled mass production of shoes which were handmade until that time.

    A. Philip Randolph :an African American labor leader (in 1937). In 1941 he conceived a march on Washington, DC, to protest exclusion of African American workers from defense jobs. Faced with the public relations threat of 100,000 marchers, President Franklin Roosevelt established the wartime Fair Employment Practice Committee. Randolph founded the League for Nonviolent Civil Disobedience Against Military Segregation, which in 1948 pressured President Harry Truman into ending segregation in the armed forces.

    Granville Woods :the individual most responsible for modernizing the railroad. During his lifetime,he earned over thirty-five patents ranging from a steam boiler furnace in 1884, an incubator in 1900, to the automatic airbrake in 1902. Many of his electrical inventions were sold to the American Bell Telephone Company and the General Electric Company. The Westinghouse Air-break Company eventually obtained his Air-break patent. His most noteworthy device in the area of electric railway travel was his induction telegraph, a system of communication for moving trains.

    A mathematician and engineer, Philip Emeagwali has been called “a father of the Internet” for his advanced formulas that in 1988 enabled more than 65,000 networked processors to perform 3.1 billion calculations per second, a record-breaking achievement that rejuvenated the world of supercomputing.

    Elijah McCoy: In 1873, developed a small, oil-filled container with an adjustable stop-cock that was capable of oiling moving parts while machinery was in motion. No longer did railroad engines have to stop every few miles while a worker oiled critical partsor or factory machinery be shut down for similar maintenance.
    McCoy’s invention revolutionized the railroad industry and factory operations. and was so reliable that it prompted buyers of his device to ask, “Is this the real McCoy?”

    Walter Lincoln Hawkins: Underground and underwater cables, which were laid over incredibly long distances, were covered with fiber wrapped in heavy, expensive lead sheathing. Hawkins and Vincent Lanza invented a plastic coating that could withstand extreme fluctuations in temperature, last up to seventy years, and was less expensive than lead. Telephone lines were subsequently installed in rural areas, bringing affordable phone service to thousands of people.

    Hawkins became an expert, not only in making plastics last longer, but in recycling these seemingly indestructible products.

    William Augustus Hinton (b. 15 December, 1883, Chicago, Illinois; d. 1959, Massachusetts) a black bacteriologist, pathologist and educator. Hinton was the first black professor in the history of Harvard University.and developed a test for syphilis which, because of its accuracy, was used by the United States Public Health Service.

    And there are hundreds more- but if you ever develop the capacity to understand things like this you can look them up. I left off the many very famous Black contributors to American Society- these men and women are not nearly as well known.

    Oh- and city boy- using the pointy sheet with eyeholes as a pillowcase doesn’t change what it is.

  8. City Boy, your conclusions are based on your firmly held premise that black people are inferior.

    No matter what anyone says, you think you can so cleverly pick it apart with your “facts”, which are anecdotal, based on no real evidence, and aim to insult, denegrate, and bring us down as a people. Since, according to you, I come from a people who have no history, and have accomplished nothing, why bother? Any examples of our VAST accomplishments as a people will be belittled. Any citing of historical fact will be dismissed.

    I hope that you take the time someday to see how wrong you are. No group of people is perfect or superior, and no one’s history is untainted. No one’s history is unimportant – to the history of the world as a whole, or to those people themselves. How dare you suggest otherwise.

    Who are you to judge the efforts of others through the lens of your own prejudices? Come back when you have developed a little wisdom, a great deal of maturity, and the humility to know that the world is much more than what you think you know.

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