Pols, DOT: Parking Permit Program For Many 'Hoods
At Monday’s forum about residential parking permits, the hottest topic of discussion was which Brooklyn neighborhoods would be included in the program. According to reports on Streetsblog and Brooklyn Streets, Carroll Gardens, people from some neighborhoods charged that the current plan (which for the most part only covers areas close to Downtown, as per the…
At Monday’s forum about residential parking permits, the hottest topic of discussion was which Brooklyn neighborhoods would be included in the program. According to reports on Streetsblog and Brooklyn Streets, Carroll Gardens, people from some neighborhoods charged that the current plan (which for the most part only covers areas close to Downtown, as per the map based on an an ’04 study above) would cause too much traffic and jostling for spots in un-permitted neighborhoods. A representative from the DOT, however, said that RPP would be available for a number of neighborhoods on an opt-in basis. Councilman de Blasio (other politicians in attendance included Councilman Yassky and Councilwoman James) floated an idea for placing RPPs all over the city near subway lines, therefore discouraging drivers from park-and-ride behavior. A pilot RPP program could go into effect as early as spring 2009, though that target date hinges on the congestion pricing timetable.
DOT: Relax Brooklyn, Parking Permits Not Just for Downtown [Streetsblog]
RPP Forum Wrap-Up [BSCG]
Downtown Brooklyn RPP Study [Brooklyn Chamber
Not sure what all the fuss is about. It’s really the retailers who are going NIMBY. If people stop driving to park slope for dinner, don’t think for a minute they’ll say, “Gee, I really have over-extended myself over the past few years, if I can’t drive to 5th Avenue, then let’s just stay in and eat tater tots while watching American Idol.” No, they’ll simply start going to local restaurants and stores more. Bad for current retail hubs, good for more diverse neighborhood options overall.
This would be bad for Park Slope restaurants and nightlife. I, for one, don’t live in the neighborhood, but drive once in a while to go to restaurants on 5th Ave. If they make it harder than it already is to park, forget it. Won’t be going any more.
I was at the ‘Forum’. The map does not show proposed Parking Permit areas- but shows the area where studies took place to determine parking usage – by whom, how long, etc, etc.
There was very different ideas from the Forum
sponsor and the DOT on POSSIBLE parking permit plans. Whatever neighbhorhood groups want resident only permits at cost of $30 for 1st car and $300 for 2nd.
DOT on other hand sounded like they would want to balance all types of users – meaning residents and people who work in the area – vry different than community group
and to me the 2 would never agree. And permit cost would need to cover expenses – they estimate $75-$125 per year.
Both sounded unconvincing to me. I am against either plan and I live Boerum Hill area. Plan will help nobody and cause a bureaucratic nightmare for many.
I guess 12:11 didn’t read the article in today’s Daily News. NYPD is now saying that the self-enforcement zone permits will only be valid–hey, here’s a concept–in the self-enforcement zones.
Talking about parking in Brooklyn is like talking about creationism in West Virgina.
People are emotionally engaged.
Lots of luck to the pols on this one.
I for one will gladly join a pitchfork brigade to the local offices of the clueless councilmembers and to Boro Hall if these revenue schemes screw up my life.
action jackson and 11:52 am: why would people drive into south brooklyn or clinton hill to take the subway into the city? those neighborhoods aren’t that really that convenient, public transportation-wise. in fact, I moved out of clinton hill because my commute to midtown was long and annoying.
gothamlawyer: just because 50% of the traffic in park slope is caused by people circling for parking spots doesn’t mean that those occupying the parking spots don’t live in park slope. a lot of people live in park slope and they own a lot of cars.
Who cares I already have my NYPD issued parking plaque – I park wherever I damn well please
I would benefit from the propsed RPP zone, but I find the patchwork nature of the map odd. (For the class warriors out there, notice that tony Cobble Hill is left out of RPP.) The only logic I see is that these neighborhoods (well mine, anyway) is where the Court employees park. They regard my residential street as their own private parking lot.
To 12:00pm:
Screw you gothamlawyer, you pretentious pseudo-liberal!
You reference a study that found that 50% of traffic in Park Slope was looking for parking spots.
Your solution: exclude the “others†based on where they live to YOUR benefit.
Sure, not based on race but the same logic.
As long as I’m around, I will not let rich special interest groups appropriate public resources that belong to all!
Why don’t you just pitch an idea for a portion of Prospect Park reserved for residents of the Park Slope Historic District!