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At Monday’s forum about residential parking permits, the hottest topic of discussion was which Brooklyn neighborhoods would be included in the program. According to reports on Streetsblog and Brooklyn Streets, Carroll Gardens, people from some neighborhoods charged that the current plan (which for the most part only covers areas close to Downtown, as per the map based on an an ’04 study above) would cause too much traffic and jostling for spots in un-permitted neighborhoods. A representative from the DOT, however, said that RPP would be available for a number of neighborhoods on an opt-in basis. Councilman de Blasio (other politicians in attendance included Councilman Yassky and Councilwoman James) floated an idea for placing RPPs all over the city near subway lines, therefore discouraging drivers from park-and-ride behavior. A pilot RPP program could go into effect as early as spring 2009, though that target date hinges on the congestion pricing timetable.
DOT: Relax Brooklyn, Parking Permits Not Just for Downtown [Streetsblog]
RPP Forum Wrap-Up [BSCG]
Downtown Brooklyn RPP Study [Brooklyn Chamber


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  1. I, too, find it hypocritical that many alleged environmentalists are so attached to their cars in a city with such extensive public transportation. I know a woman who pontificates about environmental issues, yet drives to work in lower Manhattan from her Windsor Terrace home every day. Talk about chutzpah!

  2. not sure what you mean Jackson.
    All I said is all the proposed ideas for the parking plans (from DOT and the community groups) would only be from approx. 7a to 7p weekdays.
    I don’t favor either. Bunch of nonsense to me. I know if you don’t have a space for alternate side parking the night before – you’re not going to find 1 in the morning near any subway station. So I don’t see how people are going to drive into area to use the subway.

  3. permits just mean the cars will overflow into nearby nabes. Whenever I visited my friends in Boston, I’d have to park a few blocks over – but I still frickin parked! Will bedstuy and clinton hill get permits if fort greene does? Will prospect heights get permits if park slope does? Its nonsense, damn greedy city.

  4. “They would be approx from about 7A to 7PM”

    2:13pm, obviously you have never seen folks in “car-ed up areas (Ft. Greene, Bklyn Hts, Park Slope, etc.) start to queue up looking for spaces before 7am and after 7pm.

    That still does not make any sense. Again, that is still flawed.

  5. Listen up folks – One similarity in the POSSIBLE plans (none yet are proposed) by the community groups and the ones of the DOT -DO NOT INCLUDE NIGHTS OR EVENINGS OR WEEKENDS.
    They would be approx from about 7A to 7PM
    DOT said IF (BIG IF) a plan came to fruition – neighborhoods could opt in or out.

    The neighborhood groups are trying to eliminate the daytime parkers – probably mostly people that work in are around the neighbhood. BUT – to me – DOT almost said NO WAY would they limit permits to just residents.

  6. guest at 1:45 PM,

    Wanna know what really gets on my nerves: people who have a car in the City, who register it out of state to avoid high insurance costs, who consequently cause folks who don’t follow this practice to subsidize their scam, and then who have the gall to talk about selfishness increasing!

  7. “Also have you all figured out who gets permits? Only owners? Tenants AND owners? How many per building?”

    Exactly. With Park Slope (as an example) having a very high number of multi-unit coop brownstone buildings (not to mention the plethora of condos in the South Slope, MOST with no on-site parking, who get the permit?

    Lottery? No way that’s ever going to work.

    One per residency? No way either.

    One per “household?” Is that owner or renter or both?

    While I have to learn more on the Plan, the more I read on the surface in the press and these blogs, sounds like a bad idea…and I’m for the “idea” of the congestion pricing plan.

    But this is a fatal flaw.

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