also if you ever wind up in the hospital, wind up in some crazy accident on the street, and people check your ID, you’ll be treated differently depending on where where your ID says you live. a person with a central park addy is going to be treated a hell of a lotter better than someone with a coney island address listed on their ID. it’s sad that that is the case, but it’s kinda true.
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rob, why do you want to stay in chelsea on your ID?
because i like having an extremely wealthy block listed on my ID, that’s why. tho i guess TECHNICALLY 1st street in park slope could be considered wealthy, but really only the bougeiouse hill section of park slope up near the park, 1st street extends well below 5th avenue which isnt very wealthy. 15th street in manhattan is essentially a rich prime block from the hudson river all the way to the east river, there’s no chariness about that.
bfarwell, I don’t see the same parallel. If someone admits that their belief in God is faith, plain and simple, and that they are incapable of actual knowledge of the existence or non-existence of God, that is not inconsistent with a position of agnosticism based on what humans are capable of knowing. This is very different from arguing with someone who is just logically backwards without knowing it.
“You cannot know the existence of God”
“I know that. I don’t know in the existence of God”
“So we’re in agreement then. There is no point in believing in God because you can’t know God exists.”
“No. I choose to believe in God because [fill in reason here – this is the one I can’t figure out]. But that’s faith, not knowledge.”
These two people are not disagreeing with each other. They are just making different choices.
lechacal, proving once again that Mrs lechacal is much smarter than you.
I agree with what she said (making me smarter than you, too. 😉
But I feel the same way about the existence of G-d. I don’t think we can know (at least not at this point in our evolution). Arguing about religion is an exercise in futility, but what I do argue about is how people choose to practice their religion, that is, when they use it to force their belief system on others.
“because i like having an extremely wealthy block listed on my ID”
Rob, I never thought of you as a poseur. Boughetto maybe, but not a poseur.
also if you ever wind up in the hospital, wind up in some crazy accident on the street, and people check your ID, you’ll be treated differently depending on where where your ID says you live. a person with a central park addy is going to be treated a hell of a lotter better than someone with a coney island address listed on their ID. it’s sad that that is the case, but it’s kinda true.
*rob*
Curses! foiled again!
lech – Read Kierkegaard
“I’ll try the foil idea.”
Cobble, aren’t you tired of always playing the foil?
“rob, why do you want to stay in chelsea on your ID?”
So everyone will know he’s gay.
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rob, why do you want to stay in chelsea on your ID?
because i like having an extremely wealthy block listed on my ID, that’s why. tho i guess TECHNICALLY 1st street in park slope could be considered wealthy, but really only the bougeiouse hill section of park slope up near the park, 1st street extends well below 5th avenue which isnt very wealthy. 15th street in manhattan is essentially a rich prime block from the hudson river all the way to the east river, there’s no chariness about that.
*rob*
bfarwell, I don’t see the same parallel. If someone admits that their belief in God is faith, plain and simple, and that they are incapable of actual knowledge of the existence or non-existence of God, that is not inconsistent with a position of agnosticism based on what humans are capable of knowing. This is very different from arguing with someone who is just logically backwards without knowing it.
“You cannot know the existence of God”
“I know that. I don’t know in the existence of God”
“So we’re in agreement then. There is no point in believing in God because you can’t know God exists.”
“No. I choose to believe in God because [fill in reason here – this is the one I can’t figure out]. But that’s faith, not knowledge.”
These two people are not disagreeing with each other. They are just making different choices.
lechacal, proving once again that Mrs lechacal is much smarter than you.
I agree with what she said (making me smarter than you, too. 😉
But I feel the same way about the existence of G-d. I don’t think we can know (at least not at this point in our evolution). Arguing about religion is an exercise in futility, but what I do argue about is how people choose to practice their religion, that is, when they use it to force their belief system on others.