a)perhaps I was raised in a different culture, but I was taught that it was usually bad manners to make comments on other people’s religion, or at least to be very careful about it.
b) I repeat – I know the difference between comments, and hostility. If you don’t, it’s your problem
Finally: I just signed up for a fundraiser dinner/cigar night at Giando’s on the Bay to benefit Our Lady of Mt. Carmel.
Can’t wait: steak dinner, unlimited booze, good cigars and good company.
My husband was denied an annullment. I refused to drag ex through the mud. Friends and family would have been brought in to attest to his claims (nothing horrific). No mention of money came up. I’m sure there was a fee, but no “additional donation” was ever mentioned.
For a while I had pretty negative views of organized religion, until I found a non-theistic, non-dogmatic one that I enjoyed being a part of.
Since becoming active in that religion, I have found my views on other religious becoming more mellow, although I still have strong disagreements with almost all on theological topics.
Despite the hierarchical nature of the RC Church, there is a lot of variation in dioceses, parishes, and priests.
Growing up, I saw priests bend and break several rules when they thought it was for the good of those involved.
My general understanding from talking to catholic family and friends is that there has been an overall tightening of rules in the church over the last 2 decades, including the a reduction of services to “Catholics in name only”
One gripe I do have with the church is in their willingness to give annulments. I think it is hypocritical to be against divorce, but to annul marriages that lasted years and years with good times and bad before ending in a civil divorce.
In my very unscientific observations, it seems like large donors to the church have an easier time with the annulment process.
“Finally: I just signed up for a fundraiser dinner/cigar night at Giando’s on the Bay to benefit Our Lady of Mt. Carmel.”
you gonna chill at the feast of the giglio festival thingy?
Rf;
Two points:
a)perhaps I was raised in a different culture, but I was taught that it was usually bad manners to make comments on other people’s religion, or at least to be very careful about it.
b) I repeat – I know the difference between comments, and hostility. If you don’t, it’s your problem
Finally: I just signed up for a fundraiser dinner/cigar night at Giando’s on the Bay to benefit Our Lady of Mt. Carmel.
Can’t wait: steak dinner, unlimited booze, good cigars and good company.
My husband was denied an annullment. I refused to drag ex through the mud. Friends and family would have been brought in to attest to his claims (nothing horrific). No mention of money came up. I’m sure there was a fee, but no “additional donation” was ever mentioned.
For a while I had pretty negative views of organized religion, until I found a non-theistic, non-dogmatic one that I enjoyed being a part of.
Since becoming active in that religion, I have found my views on other religious becoming more mellow, although I still have strong disagreements with almost all on theological topics.
People also do it to placate families.
Despite the hierarchical nature of the RC Church, there is a lot of variation in dioceses, parishes, and priests.
Growing up, I saw priests bend and break several rules when they thought it was for the good of those involved.
My general understanding from talking to catholic family and friends is that there has been an overall tightening of rules in the church over the last 2 decades, including the a reduction of services to “Catholics in name only”
One gripe I do have with the church is in their willingness to give annulments. I think it is hypocritical to be against divorce, but to annul marriages that lasted years and years with good times and bad before ending in a civil divorce.
In my very unscientific observations, it seems like large donors to the church have an easier time with the annulment process.
Ditto that, dh. All organized religion.
“DH, I stand corrected, but I assume they “promised” to continue practicing, no? If not, why get married in the church, pretty pictures?”
exactly – pretty pictures. they don’t really “promise” – but the church hopes by welcoming them back in the community they will continue to come.
but this is in a small parish in long island – i would imagine it would be different for more wealthy churches in NYC.
Benson (if I may) stated fact earlier, not his opinion. There’s a difference.