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  1. “But your takeaway is that everyone else is wrong and only you are right. Good luck with that”

    No bxgrl, those are your words not mine.
    I’ll be the first to say I’m wrong on many occassions.
    But I won’t be false and say I’m average in the amount of times that I’m right.
    I’d have to be a moron to assume I’m average.

  2. it’s to know that families dont hold onto wealth forever. thinking about it, i think my family has always remained lower middle class since when they arrived to this country. i guess im lower middle class.. sorta money wise and definitely when it comes to aesthetics and lifestyle. shrug. i dont like thinking about it that way. i think it’s harder for a single childless person to pinpoint their class status than it is for a family to classify their class status.

    *rob*

  3. “I made those statements about some of my struggles in response to bxgrl’s presumptuous challenge that the Kennedy family somehow had more to add to the American experience than my family’s. ”

    Again- Bullshit. Not what I said, meant, implied- whatever. You always say crap like that because when you aren’t winning an argument on merit you always throw in something else and try to twist the issue around. You’re the one who commented on the Kennedy’s “loss of drive”, and blamed it on their generations of privilege. Completely overlooking the overwhelming tragedies they have suffered and their contribution to American history. You’re the one making it all about you and your family. Not me.

  4. “I’m afraid you’ll have to find somewhere else to stay when you’re visiting from Wisconsin.”

    Well, since I’m partial to four walls and a roof, all insulated, I wasn’t much interested in crashing in your tent anyhow.

  5. Let me claify again,
    I don’t assume any more virtue for
    poverty or wealth.
    (Read Bertrand Russell for more on that).

    But, if someone questions my value as compared to others in society, I will of course let them know what I’ve experienced and how it might be more pertinent to the real world that someone else.
    In this case bxgrl asking me what I had contributed that might be of value.
    I’ll of course respond, what makes a Kennedy today have a more valid human experience than I have had.
    In fact, I would say, I’ve experience far more and can speak to more than many scions of political families.

    Is that such a crazy statement? I guess it is to cobblehiller and bxgrl.
    Yet it is precisely what many use to get elected in certain communities and to gain “respect” amongst their peers.

  6. When I grew up, my parents were probably poor on paper, but through the use of credit we lived a solid middle class life.

    There were lots of people calling the house asking for their money, and occasionally they came by the house. Utility bills were always paid in person at the last minute, and once we had the power cut off.

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