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denton, Irag didn’t have the effect on oil you attribute to it. The voliatility in oil was all well after the Iraq invasion and it wasn’t until late feb that it rose from $85. Oil was $70 in May-Aug until things started to heat up over there. None of that had anything to do with iraq. Iran maybe but not Iraq.
“Yes, I think he’s shown leadership. It takes balls to not over-react but to evaluate the situation. His approach to this is illustrative of one of the reasons I voted for him.”
Leader, yes. The same kind of Cowboy/GI Joe leader as Reagan or Bush, no. This is not the same world, the same kind of leadership is not what is required. We don’t need the macho gunslinging, my parts are bigger than everyone else’s kind of leadership.
I think Obama was holding back for several reasons. One, Libya is a sovereign country, no matter how horrible its leadership. Going in there takes thought and consideration.
Two, this part of the world is a mess. The last thing the US needs is to get involved. We can’t afford the wars we have.
We cannot be the supercops of the world, no matter how righteous the cause, or how heinous the dictator. We must allow other countries, especially those with long relationships in the area, to get involved and take the lead. The US does not have to be the first out of the boat and invading the beach.
I believe he was holding out for diplomatic solutions, or maybe for some of the nations of the Arab world to stop bitching and start acting. They love to call us to fix their messes, and then complain when we want to leave, or complain that we’re there at all.
Lastly, Obama is his own man, who does things in his own way. He is a thinker, as well as a doer. I am willing to give him the time to tell us what the plan is. I much prefer that to seeing him in a flight suit on the deck of the Intrepid, telling me “Mission accomplished.” The same people bitching that he went into war without consulting them, would be bitching no matter what he did or didn’t do.
I started to respond to Benson’s question, but then started getting myself upset – SICK (I can do it to myself, don’t need the OT) about Bush and Iraq and now another expensive, deadly war. Another expensive deadly war with no coherent explanation. Actually, no explanation. No going to Congress. Forget the Nato/French circus. Yes, I am annoyed at Obama. And I could go off in 8,000 directions about the folly of our American policy or lack thereof. But I’ll short circuit the whole thing and spare everybody.
denton, Irag didn’t have the effect on oil you attribute to it. The voliatility in oil was all well after the Iraq invasion and it wasn’t until late feb that it rose from $85. Oil was $70 in May-Aug until things started to heat up over there. None of that had anything to do with iraq. Iran maybe but not Iraq.
By donatella on March 23, 2011 5:12 PM
“I started to respond to Benson’s question, but then started getting myself upset – SICK ”
donatella,
So you’ve found yet another use for the OT,
as a potent emetic.
😉
Foggy Bottom is a geographic area & was called that because DC is built on a swamp & there was always a miasma hanging around there.
“Yes, I think he’s shown leadership. It takes balls to not over-react but to evaluate the situation. His approach to this is illustrative of one of the reasons I voted for him.”
Amen, arkady.
Leader, yes. The same kind of Cowboy/GI Joe leader as Reagan or Bush, no. This is not the same world, the same kind of leadership is not what is required. We don’t need the macho gunslinging, my parts are bigger than everyone else’s kind of leadership.
I think Obama was holding back for several reasons. One, Libya is a sovereign country, no matter how horrible its leadership. Going in there takes thought and consideration.
Two, this part of the world is a mess. The last thing the US needs is to get involved. We can’t afford the wars we have.
We cannot be the supercops of the world, no matter how righteous the cause, or how heinous the dictator. We must allow other countries, especially those with long relationships in the area, to get involved and take the lead. The US does not have to be the first out of the boat and invading the beach.
I believe he was holding out for diplomatic solutions, or maybe for some of the nations of the Arab world to stop bitching and start acting. They love to call us to fix their messes, and then complain when we want to leave, or complain that we’re there at all.
Lastly, Obama is his own man, who does things in his own way. He is a thinker, as well as a doer. I am willing to give him the time to tell us what the plan is. I much prefer that to seeing him in a flight suit on the deck of the Intrepid, telling me “Mission accomplished.” The same people bitching that he went into war without consulting them, would be bitching no matter what he did or didn’t do.
I started to respond to Benson’s question, but then started getting myself upset – SICK (I can do it to myself, don’t need the OT) about Bush and Iraq and now another expensive, deadly war. Another expensive deadly war with no coherent explanation. Actually, no explanation. No going to Congress. Forget the Nato/French circus. Yes, I am annoyed at Obama. And I could go off in 8,000 directions about the folly of our American policy or lack thereof. But I’ll short circuit the whole thing and spare everybody.
Maybe you are right, Denton.
“”As you can see I started at the bottom.”
That means you’re an ass man.”
Biff, rotate 180 degrees.
Portugal’s Prime Minister Resigned
“It’s very simplke. IT IS ABOUT OIL. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just naive.”
dibs, you’re sounding like one of those wacky liberals who used to scream NO BLOOD FOR OI.
In fact oil was $30 bbl when we invaded Iraq. Now it’s $105 and would be another $5-$10 if it wasn’t for Japan.
Some way to run a war.