Jessi- saw that too. the article also said people were afraid to pay dues because they worried that employers would learn who was still in the union or not.
M4L- I don’t say all for profit business is evil or bad. But it is unrealistic to talk about how their first priority is profits for their shareholders, while they play games with the US economy and government. You can’t deny the interconnectedness of business and government, nor its ability to influence government and lives. I have a problem with business when it puts itself so far ahead of everyone and everything else that it destroys the country for its own needs. Look at what the whole financial crisis was about. There is an increasing class divide in this country and it is destructive.
But Jackal, if taxes keep going down, how will the govt keep being able to give people stuff? What happens to the people without jobs and without the safety net?
There is a very large organization that decides certain people are entitled to get stuff and just gives it to them at the expense of the population at large.
It’s called the government.
All of this populist drivel is giving me a headache.
DH, take high end developers (a mkt where there’s not a ton of slack), companies are paying thru the nose as twitter, google, facebook, microsoft,… are in constant bidding wars to secure/retain their programmers. In other industries where there’s a lot of supply (ie good talent that are among the unemployed), one can think about salary increases, etc that supply:demand is that out of whack. competition will eat up the slack and once it gets tight, salaries will move up.
Speaking purely from personal experience, I have spent my career working for fortune 500 companies in a back-office environment.
Other members of my immediate family have worked in unionized operations for a fortune 500 company, state government civil service, smaller privately held for profit companies, non-profit organizations, and unionized school districts.
There are pros, cons, trade-offs, and compromises with all, but I think I have the best situation. I have come very close to being laid off a couple of times, and I have endured months and years when I hated my job. However, my compensation and benefits have always been good and for the most part I have been rewarded for doing good work.
Most co-workers I talk to are unhappy in one way or another with their job, but for the most part those feelings are outweighed by the good aspects (especially the pay). I have known multiple people who have been quit or been laid off and then come back to the same company.
Corporate America is by no means perfect, but it is overall a good place for skilled employees who are willing to work.
DIBS – am confused – have taxes gone up?
“Go ask Alice…”
You think she’ll know?
Why do corn nuts have the word “nuts” in their name?
I’m snacking on some now and think they could have come up with a better name.
By jessibaby on February 28, 2011 12:31 PM
But Jackal, if taxes keep going down…
ROTFLMMFAO
Go ask Alice…
Jessi- saw that too. the article also said people were afraid to pay dues because they worried that employers would learn who was still in the union or not.
M4L- I don’t say all for profit business is evil or bad. But it is unrealistic to talk about how their first priority is profits for their shareholders, while they play games with the US economy and government. You can’t deny the interconnectedness of business and government, nor its ability to influence government and lives. I have a problem with business when it puts itself so far ahead of everyone and everything else that it destroys the country for its own needs. Look at what the whole financial crisis was about. There is an increasing class divide in this country and it is destructive.
But Jackal, if taxes keep going down, how will the govt keep being able to give people stuff? What happens to the people without jobs and without the safety net?
There is a very large organization that decides certain people are entitled to get stuff and just gives it to them at the expense of the population at large.
It’s called the government.
All of this populist drivel is giving me a headache.
DH, take high end developers (a mkt where there’s not a ton of slack), companies are paying thru the nose as twitter, google, facebook, microsoft,… are in constant bidding wars to secure/retain their programmers. In other industries where there’s a lot of supply (ie good talent that are among the unemployed), one can think about salary increases, etc that supply:demand is that out of whack. competition will eat up the slack and once it gets tight, salaries will move up.
Speaking purely from personal experience, I have spent my career working for fortune 500 companies in a back-office environment.
Other members of my immediate family have worked in unionized operations for a fortune 500 company, state government civil service, smaller privately held for profit companies, non-profit organizations, and unionized school districts.
There are pros, cons, trade-offs, and compromises with all, but I think I have the best situation. I have come very close to being laid off a couple of times, and I have endured months and years when I hated my job. However, my compensation and benefits have always been good and for the most part I have been rewarded for doing good work.
Most co-workers I talk to are unhappy in one way or another with their job, but for the most part those feelings are outweighed by the good aspects (especially the pay). I have known multiple people who have been quit or been laid off and then come back to the same company.
Corporate America is by no means perfect, but it is overall a good place for skilled employees who are willing to work.