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  1. I saw a box of wine glasses in Costco two trips ago. They were advertises as ‘non-breakable’. They are really awesome glasses!

    Unfortunately I have not seem them again, not in the store, on the website, or CL even. Hell, I’d see a lot of my Riedel’s if I could get more!

    Costco is the biggest seller of wine in the country.

  2. fair enough, dona. I can certainly see your point. My experience is different and I have a feeling its because as a hearing impaired person, I miss a great deal in verbal conversation. Reading, texting, email- all are much better for me for that reason. The reason why I like the OT. But even with people representing, I still get a glimpse of why they think the way they do, and its harder to dissemble when its all in black and white. That also appeals tom e because much of my verbal conversation consists of me asking people to repeat themselves so I can be sure I hear what they actually said- precision in language is really important to me because it’s so difficult for me in normal conversation.

  3. commenting as not-a-human-being/hu-mon:

    While I have not done a lot of research on the subject, I did read a short bio of CC in a book entitled ‘Deluxe’, Dana Thomas, 2007. This is what she says about the Chanel/Wertheimer relationship:

    -Coco invents Chanel #5 with Ernest Beaux (a perfumer) in 1919.

    -Galleries Lafayette wanted to sell more of C #5 than they could produce, so introduced CC to the Wertheimer company in 1920.

    -CC was to receive 10% royalties only. In the author’s words, ‘it didn’t take long for CC to realize she’d been crooked’. She battled in court for years to no avail

    -In 1940 when the Nazis invaded Paris, the Wertheimers fled to the USA and CC took a Nazi lover. She denounced the Wertheimers to the Nazis. However the Wertheimers had already signed over their company to a French supplier of arms to the Nazis / collaborator. After armistice, they got it back.

    -CC was arrested after the armistice as a collaborator but was released in three hours and never tried.

    -After more years of back and forth, CC came to an agreement with the Wertheimer family. In exchange for various things, the Wertheimer family took over the entire Chanel business.

    -The Wertheimer family owns it all today and has since 1971. In 2006, according to Forbes, they were # 65 on the billionaire list. “Luxe titan Chanel is tightly controlled by brothers Alain and Gerard Wertheimer, grandsons of founder Pierre Wertheimer.”

    Sounds to me like a typical nasty business dispute where all is fair in love and war. CC lost in the end, and the Jewish Wertheimer family was equally guilty, it seems to me.

    Of course this is one source only. But I’d be happy to do further study.

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