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CGar- he had his facts straight but since you didn’t read everything you don’t know the context. No one was arguing the US helped those countries. He used them as examples to make an unrelated point, so it makes no sense.
Even though you’re all plathering on for too long, I skimmed your posts. At the risk of sounding Solomonesque, your positions are not mutually exclusive. There are indeed many aspects of our country and our history that support American Exceptionalism just as there are many very ugly aspects of our country and our history.
Legion- she is not denying anything. Just because she puts the US in the context of world history doesn’t mean she is denying anything. Why do you insist in rewriting what she said? And adding erroneous information? What is this- if you mention another country is great, that means you’re denying this country’s greatness? Don’t be ridiculous. And whether or not they are as influential now as the US is really not the point. Every country has its cycle. They rise, they fall. That’s a fact, well proven by history.
American Exceptionalism or greatness is ill-served by blinding yourself to everything America is- or isn’t. And despite the idea that many people don’t believe in Palins’ version of American exceptionalism (actually mock patriotism, as Schurz said), there are no streams of of people emigrating to Cuba.
“(rolling up a large snowball to throw)”
((((ducking!!!!))))
Ha ha, missed me! : P
“Goodness, cobble is grinchy this evening :)”
THIS evening? I thought I was grinchy every day all day! ; )
“Damn it, cobble! Have I learned you nothing?! When we both post at the exact same time, they know we’re colluding with you in your office and me in my tent!”
But we are colluding, aren’t we? : P Btw, would shut the door to the deck more tightly, I think I feel a draft! : P
*rob*, have you had your vinegar sammich and taken your bubble bath yet???
andrew jackson is on my favorite bill.
*rob*
okay, i think i know what you mean randi…
“”including biotechnologists, ecologically minded architects, organic fashion designers and even miniature-cupcake makers. Most came in search of cheap rent”
if it was merely decribde as biotechnologists (that’s hot btw), architects, fashion designers, and bakers… i would have approved… but yes, you are right.. the little add ons people give to their careers to make themselves sound better and more noble than other people, i guess do annoy me to no end…
still office space is very expensive, and people renting office space in areas where there is a of inventory, in the end, is good for the local businesses.
*rob*
Don’t know how this fits into your snowball fight, but, interestingly, Andrew Jackson is typically listed among the top 10 US Presidents. I beg to differ. Even putting aside the havoc he wreaked on the economy with his fight over the Bank of the US, the Indian Removal Act, which he used the army to enforce in contravention of the US Supreme Court, was one of the most tragic events in American History, IMHO.