I never said that the over-achievers were greater in number than the slackers (or the other way around).
I just said that both existed and individual stories like the one in the Post really don’t add much and there needs to be a comprehensive investigation to tell what went wrong on all levels.
I don’t believe in moral equivalency, but I do believe that there are two (or more) sides to every story, and focusing on one is not going to lead to the best interpretation of an event.
“They have a crap job and get no respect.I don’t know a single person on the OT who would work under the conditions they do. Certainly not the lawyers ;)”
I used to be a logger. I got paid by how much I produced, and let me tell you it was not much. I had no guaranteed hours. Work was completely dependent on the weather. If there was a big rainstorm and the job was muddy I could be without work for weeks. In mud season in the spring there was no work at all. I was an “independent contractor”, which means I had to pay all my own payroll taxes out of my take, which, again, was small. I had no health insurance. I had no retirement plan. There was no such thing as overtime. And logging is one of the most dangerous trades. Lots of guys lose fingers, limbs, end up vegetables, and since you’re working for yourself there’s no one to sue, no insurance, nothing. The work was back breaking. Sometimes it would be below zero fahrenheit in backwoods Vermont and the skidder would barely start and I’d be freezing my ass off and the snow was three feet deep but I had to go out there and produce. I have several scars from the chainsaw. I reeked of diesel fuel and chainsaw oil and sweat. And then there were the opinionated assholes from places like Park Slope who would come up to Vermont and judge me for doing my goddamn job.
These municipal union people are a bunch of pathetic, entitled, blood-sucking leeches. I’m trying to think of a stronger way to say this right now but words are failing me.
Ditto. The Sanitation Dept. is a top-down organization. The troops do what they are told. I am sure there are lots of guys who will enjoy the paycheck but didn’t like sitting there in their trucks during all the days after Christmas being given ridiculous instructions by management and watching disaster ensue.
But not all “assholes” stink.
I never said that the over-achievers were greater in number than the slackers (or the other way around).
I just said that both existed and individual stories like the one in the Post really don’t add much and there needs to be a comprehensive investigation to tell what went wrong on all levels.
I don’t believe in moral equivalency, but I do believe that there are two (or more) sides to every story, and focusing on one is not going to lead to the best interpretation of an event.
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Rage not directed at you, bxgrl, not directed at you. 🙂
“They have a crap job and get no respect.I don’t know a single person on the OT who would work under the conditions they do. Certainly not the lawyers ;)”
I used to be a logger. I got paid by how much I produced, and let me tell you it was not much. I had no guaranteed hours. Work was completely dependent on the weather. If there was a big rainstorm and the job was muddy I could be without work for weeks. In mud season in the spring there was no work at all. I was an “independent contractor”, which means I had to pay all my own payroll taxes out of my take, which, again, was small. I had no health insurance. I had no retirement plan. There was no such thing as overtime. And logging is one of the most dangerous trades. Lots of guys lose fingers, limbs, end up vegetables, and since you’re working for yourself there’s no one to sue, no insurance, nothing. The work was back breaking. Sometimes it would be below zero fahrenheit in backwoods Vermont and the skidder would barely start and I’d be freezing my ass off and the snow was three feet deep but I had to go out there and produce. I have several scars from the chainsaw. I reeked of diesel fuel and chainsaw oil and sweat. And then there were the opinionated assholes from places like Park Slope who would come up to Vermont and judge me for doing my goddamn job.
These municipal union people are a bunch of pathetic, entitled, blood-sucking leeches. I’m trying to think of a stronger way to say this right now but words are failing me.
I wonder how many pairs of shoes the average sanitation worker has.
Opinions are like assholes. Everybody’s got one and everyone thinks everyone else’s stinks.
“Of course Lechacal wasn’t here either but you know what they say about opinions…”
“In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane.”
-O. Wilde
Of course Lechacal wasn’t here either but you know what they say about opinions…
Ditto. The Sanitation Dept. is a top-down organization. The troops do what they are told. I am sure there are lots of guys who will enjoy the paycheck but didn’t like sitting there in their trucks during all the days after Christmas being given ridiculous instructions by management and watching disaster ensue.