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etson>I think it’s partly a US thing, because almost everyone is descended from someone who came from somewhere else, usually quite recently.
Quite possibly, though after occasionally reading some Indian blogs, it does not seem restricted to the US. Ethnic or cultural jingoism is quite strong everywhere. The black-white issue in the US is of freighted by hundreds of years of direct discrimination, but I still don’t understand why it has not devolved into just a class thing (as I seem to see it more in Britain with the Indians/Pakistanis). Iow, why wouldn’t, say, a black upper-class lawyer socialize with other upper-class folk of any race rather than self-ghettoize(no racism) by having predominantly black friends? How often even in Manhattan do you see mixed race groups for example in a restaraunt? Or at the US Open?
Shirley this will get me GOTD, but if anyone here knows the words to the song “Nothing” from A Chorus Line, then I need say no more about how my direct manager treats me.
I think what’s troubling nowadays is that rap music is SO not about anything anymore. like I said in my little story above I really did learn A LOT about black culture from rap groups that were out in the 90’s that rapped about black pride and history and struggle and yes even how to have fun and party. Kids and white kids even more are listing to hip-hop and are only exposed to the crap that is out there that only glorifies gangster living, money and degrading women – it’s really sad
Bxgrl, Donatella, ENY, gemini10, Lech, ishtar, cmu, infinitejester and others … thanks for your thoughtful responses. This has actually been a very interesting and sensitive discussion, and demonstrates what a diverse on-line community like this can be at its best.
By the way, I’m reading a really interesting book that I highly recommend: “The Warmth of Other Suns: The Epic Story of America’s Great Migration,” by Isabel Wilkerson. It’s actually the first comprehensive history ever written about the epic migration of Black Americans out of the South in the first half of the 20th century. It’s exhaustingly researched, but reads almost like a memoir or novel, since she uses the personal stories of three individuals who she interviewed in detail to tell the larger story of what people went through to get out of the South and establish themselves in the big cities of the North and West. It also explains quite poignantly how brutal life was for Black people in the South under Jim Crow. From the New York Times review of the book:
“These three left their homes for very different reasons. But what they had in common was an inability to accept the illogic of the Jim Crow world in which they were raised. The single greatest strength of ‘The Warmth of Other Suns’ lies in its anecdotal examples of how the rules of segregation, whether spoken or unspoken, actually worked on a day-to-day basis. It’s one thing to know that Southern blacks faced bias in all aspects of their lives. It’s another to know that when an esteemed black doctor from Louisiana needed to perform surgery on a black patient, he couldn’t do it in a white hospital. Driving around with his own portable operating table was easier.”
omg remember ENY accussed me of coming from a slave owner family just because i said that my nanny as a kid was a black woman??! she was a free nanny tho, i think that’s why he made that outrageous accussation.
why i had a nanny for so many years when my grandmother didnt even work tho is a little mind boggling.
omg remember ENY accussed me of coming from a slave owner family just because i said that my nanny as a kid was a black woman??! she was a free nanny tho, i think that’s why he made that outrageous accussation.
why i had a nanny for so many years when my grandmother didnt even work tho is a little mind boggling.
etson>I think it’s partly a US thing, because almost everyone is descended from someone who came from somewhere else, usually quite recently.
Quite possibly, though after occasionally reading some Indian blogs, it does not seem restricted to the US. Ethnic or cultural jingoism is quite strong everywhere. The black-white issue in the US is of freighted by hundreds of years of direct discrimination, but I still don’t understand why it has not devolved into just a class thing (as I seem to see it more in Britain with the Indians/Pakistanis). Iow, why wouldn’t, say, a black upper-class lawyer socialize with other upper-class folk of any race rather than self-ghettoize(no racism) by having predominantly black friends? How often even in Manhattan do you see mixed race groups for example in a restaraunt? Or at the US Open?
BHO, don’t bother us with crap that the market has already fully discounted.
Shirley this will get me GOTD, but if anyone here knows the words to the song “Nothing” from A Chorus Line, then I need say no more about how my direct manager treats me.
I think what’s troubling nowadays is that rap music is SO not about anything anymore. like I said in my little story above I really did learn A LOT about black culture from rap groups that were out in the 90’s that rapped about black pride and history and struggle and yes even how to have fun and party. Kids and white kids even more are listing to hip-hop and are only exposed to the crap that is out there that only glorifies gangster living, money and degrading women – it’s really sad
TARP II (securitization fraud coming home to roost – MBS lawsuits and restitutions)?
This is HUGE!
(or maybe Obama will backtrack and sign the bill like Bush did TARP despite repeated pronouncements not to bail out banks)
***Bid half off peak comps***
Bxgrl, Donatella, ENY, gemini10, Lech, ishtar, cmu, infinitejester and others … thanks for your thoughtful responses. This has actually been a very interesting and sensitive discussion, and demonstrates what a diverse on-line community like this can be at its best.
By the way, I’m reading a really interesting book that I highly recommend: “The Warmth of Other Suns: The Epic Story of America’s Great Migration,” by Isabel Wilkerson. It’s actually the first comprehensive history ever written about the epic migration of Black Americans out of the South in the first half of the 20th century. It’s exhaustingly researched, but reads almost like a memoir or novel, since she uses the personal stories of three individuals who she interviewed in detail to tell the larger story of what people went through to get out of the South and establish themselves in the big cities of the North and West. It also explains quite poignantly how brutal life was for Black people in the South under Jim Crow. From the New York Times review of the book:
“These three left their homes for very different reasons. But what they had in common was an inability to accept the illogic of the Jim Crow world in which they were raised. The single greatest strength of ‘The Warmth of Other Suns’ lies in its anecdotal examples of how the rules of segregation, whether spoken or unspoken, actually worked on a day-to-day basis. It’s one thing to know that Southern blacks faced bias in all aspects of their lives. It’s another to know that when an esteemed black doctor from Louisiana needed to perform surgery on a black patient, he couldn’t do it in a white hospital. Driving around with his own portable operating table was easier.”
omg remember ENY accussed me of coming from a slave owner family just because i said that my nanny as a kid was a black woman??! she was a free nanny tho, i think that’s why he made that outrageous accussation.
why i had a nanny for so many years when my grandmother didnt even work tho is a little mind boggling.
*rob*
omg remember ENY accussed me of coming from a slave owner family just because i said that my nanny as a kid was a black woman??! she was a free nanny tho, i think that’s why he made that outrageous accussation.
why i had a nanny for so many years when my grandmother didnt even work tho is a little mind boggling.
*rob*
CMU=ABCD Now is that American Born C??? Desi?