legion, I have a beautiful antique Japanese hibachi made of a nice light wood with drawrs in the botton and a fire pit in the middle. I use it as a coffee table out on the Cape.
“What if the owners of the Suns discovered that hordes of people were sneaking into Suns’ games without paying? What if the owners had a good idea as to who the gate-crashers are, but the ushers and security personnel were not Allowed to ask these folks to produce their ticket
stubs, thus non-paying attendees couldn’t be ejected. Furthermore, what if Suns’ ownership was expected to provide those who sneaked in with complimentary eats and drink? And what if, on those days when a gate-crasher became ill or injured, the Suns had to provide free medical
care and shelter?”–Phil Mushnik, NY Post, May 16th, 2010
Nothing illuminates the bankruptcy of liberalism better than liberalism itself. The above quote was a composite of fan responses to Phoenix Sun owner Robert Sarver’s idea that his team wear “Los Suns” jerseys to protest the new Arizona immigration law. Is there any doubt how Mr.
Sarver would react if what he claims to believe in were directly applied to his interests? How about his players? How many of them would take a salary cut so that “undocumented attendees” whose “only crime” was a desire to see an NBA basketball game could attend one?
There is a reason the expression “limousine liberal” came into being. It aptly describes those who fervently believe in the theory of liberalism–as long as they remain largely immune from its practical application.”
I’ll save further commentary
for future events, as they unfold.
…and they will unfold.
dibs,
You’ll appreciate this,
I got home yesterday and
waiting in a large delivery
box was the antique Japanese
Ban Go board I ordered.
It’s beautiful, made of solid
Kaya wood.
Visualize a venn diagram consisting of two circles, a small one inside of a larger one.
The middle circle is the position for someone to discuss and debate issues, perhaps vigorously but without ever resorting to anger.
The outer ring is the position for people who get angry and resort to emotion, accusations, invective, etc.
I’ll pause here to remind you that I think you’re a very smart and as you know I agree with you on a lot of issues.
But here’s what happens in a lot of your discussions here:
– You start out in the middle.
– Someone responds to you in the middle.
– You immediately retreat into the outer ring rather than holding your ground in the middle.
– In many cases, soon after that the person you are talking with also retreats to the outer ring.
In other words you lead people into the outer ring, not vice versa. It’s like opposite poles of a magnet when someone is in the middle circle with you. I think you hold your own views so strongly that you treat an opposing view almost like a personal attack – and just hearing an opposing view is enough to kick you into the outer ring.
legion–if there was a contest to see who hates radical islam the most I am sure I would be right up there. My heart was filled with rage on 9/11 and many years after that. I just feel that the way the global situation has played out since that time has demonstrated that you can’t fight religious zealotry in the same way that you fight a traditional military power.
And I am ideological, highly so, I just try to always see the perspective of the other side so that I can understand the rationale (if there is one). Radical islam is in my opinion without any merits whatsoever and the world would be best served by its eradication. However, we need to accept the fact that despite our efforts in this area, we are not winning this battle. We have decentralized it yes, preventing a large scale attack such as 9/11 (which is a real victory) but we have not dampened the passion with which an increasing number of people heed its call. I don’t pretend to know what to do about it but I do know that closing ourselves off (via immigration policy or pre-emptive aggression towards states we deem hostile) is not the winning policy either.
Pete, when it hits something super hard, it’ll bounce up
legion, I have a beautiful antique Japanese hibachi made of a nice light wood with drawrs in the botton and a fire pit in the middle. I use it as a coffee table out on the Cape.
^^^^^^^^^
And by opposite poles of course I mean identical poles. The ones that repel each other.
GRENADE!!!!!!!
“What if the owners of the Suns discovered that hordes of people were sneaking into Suns’ games without paying? What if the owners had a good idea as to who the gate-crashers are, but the ushers and security personnel were not Allowed to ask these folks to produce their ticket
stubs, thus non-paying attendees couldn’t be ejected. Furthermore, what if Suns’ ownership was expected to provide those who sneaked in with complimentary eats and drink? And what if, on those days when a gate-crasher became ill or injured, the Suns had to provide free medical
care and shelter?”–Phil Mushnik, NY Post, May 16th, 2010
Nothing illuminates the bankruptcy of liberalism better than liberalism itself. The above quote was a composite of fan responses to Phoenix Sun owner Robert Sarver’s idea that his team wear “Los Suns” jerseys to protest the new Arizona immigration law. Is there any doubt how Mr.
Sarver would react if what he claims to believe in were directly applied to his interests? How about his players? How many of them would take a salary cut so that “undocumented attendees” whose “only crime” was a desire to see an NBA basketball game could attend one?
There is a reason the expression “limousine liberal” came into being. It aptly describes those who fervently believe in the theory of liberalism–as long as they remain largely immune from its practical application.”
on a more cheerful note, How long/deep will this market downturn be? place your bets
dibs is right.
I’ll save further commentary
for future events, as they unfold.
…and they will unfold.
dibs,
You’ll appreciate this,
I got home yesterday and
waiting in a large delivery
box was the antique Japanese
Ban Go board I ordered.
It’s beautiful, made of solid
Kaya wood.
Benson:
Visualize a venn diagram consisting of two circles, a small one inside of a larger one.
The middle circle is the position for someone to discuss and debate issues, perhaps vigorously but without ever resorting to anger.
The outer ring is the position for people who get angry and resort to emotion, accusations, invective, etc.
I’ll pause here to remind you that I think you’re a very smart and as you know I agree with you on a lot of issues.
But here’s what happens in a lot of your discussions here:
– You start out in the middle.
– Someone responds to you in the middle.
– You immediately retreat into the outer ring rather than holding your ground in the middle.
– In many cases, soon after that the person you are talking with also retreats to the outer ring.
In other words you lead people into the outer ring, not vice versa. It’s like opposite poles of a magnet when someone is in the middle circle with you. I think you hold your own views so strongly that you treat an opposing view almost like a personal attack – and just hearing an opposing view is enough to kick you into the outer ring.
legion–if there was a contest to see who hates radical islam the most I am sure I would be right up there. My heart was filled with rage on 9/11 and many years after that. I just feel that the way the global situation has played out since that time has demonstrated that you can’t fight religious zealotry in the same way that you fight a traditional military power.
And I am ideological, highly so, I just try to always see the perspective of the other side so that I can understand the rationale (if there is one). Radical islam is in my opinion without any merits whatsoever and the world would be best served by its eradication. However, we need to accept the fact that despite our efforts in this area, we are not winning this battle. We have decentralized it yes, preventing a large scale attack such as 9/11 (which is a real victory) but we have not dampened the passion with which an increasing number of people heed its call. I don’t pretend to know what to do about it but I do know that closing ourselves off (via immigration policy or pre-emptive aggression towards states we deem hostile) is not the winning policy either.
OMG…beautiful fuzzy ones! I want Fraps!