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  1. …ironic part of the wall street wizards story;

    they were applying Chaos theory models to a defined “chaotic” type system and were undone by
    another “chaotic” system (the weather)
    with a result of ; chaos.

    so to summarize:

    Chaos + Chaos = More Chaos (or a trend towards entropy)

  2. denton,

    In the early 90’s, a group of self-proclaimed mathematical wizards set out to “conquer” the market.
    They would be applying complex mathematical algorithms based on Chaos theory to the money markets.
    They dotted every i, they crossed every t, they double checked their computer models and were set to become the new masters of the universe.

    then mother nature stepped in with some kind of natural disaster which sent them off a cliff in back to their ivory towers.

    there is too much instability in the world right now, built up over too many years. if someone sneezes we’re not only catching a cold we’re getting the motherfu–in swine flu.

  3. Pete;

    No capitalists are not like that, some companies are like that. And you know what? I love having the freedom to make that choice, to have the independence to be able to deal with folks who I believe are giving me value. My choice may be different than others. That’s what great.

    I much prefer that over a system where I am forced to turn over my dollars to entitled incompetents, or I will be thrown into jail.

  4. thanks benson, I’m in the same boat, they hold my original, so it seemed easier. I can walk away if need be, I’m at 6.125.

    What, now you’re giving me bad advice. (btw, I’m not increasing my debt, merely reducing interest and schedule). If I was sure, like you are, that a depression was coming, the best advice would be to mortgage all my property to the hilt, then buy gold, SKF, S&P shorts. Walk away from the properties when the shit hits the fan, then buy dibs’ brownstone at half off.

    But I don’t believe that a depression is coming.

  5. he isn’t taking more on..just refinancing current loan under better terms (I gather).
    And say it isn’t so….a major corporation -“in turmoil, and there are just incompetents there. They actually lied to me about what they were offering” .
    Capitalists are like that? you’re sounding like some commie subversive. Hope you carry your citizen docs with you or could get locked up and forgotten.

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