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LOL I saw Chris Rock on Bill Maher a couple of days ago and he was comparing Obama’s Healthcare to First class flight situation. Rich people pay premium for first class to go in style and not sit next to average folks and then here comes someone that got bumped from coach to first class but didn’t pay for it. So the rich people get pissed off that they are given the same seat but didn’t folk anything over. The way the airlines remedy the situation, they shove booze in them and get everyone liquored up so they don’t care anymore.
final post regarding the vietnam conflict since it brings to light the role of media and perception that tyburg and I were debating earlier.
it is well understood by military historians that the US did not lose a single battle in that conflict.
rather it was the perception at home, stoked by activists, that finally forced President Nixon to withdraw from that conflict.
Walter Conkrite’s personal assessment of the Tet offensive was a key turning point. He was the nation’s most trusted man at the time, for better or worse. It is telling however that he later came out as a lifelong left leaning individual. by his own admission.
We cannot underestimate the role of “perception” in the nation’s politics. there is simply no objective truth in newsreporting unfortunately.
I loooove Chris Rock!
I had the fortunate pleasure of seeing him many times in NYC comedy clubs when he was working out material for that Special. I think it was in 2006.
Mr. B…you should start a politics thread…throw out a different subject each day and let people post away…It would generate a lot of hits/posts. If it were separate from the OT, many more folks would likely participate in the discussion instead of just us regulars.
no one here has agrued that war in any form is good.
what is being argued is the role of the united states in the world and the inherent “imperialism” that goes with the attempts overt and covert to spread democratic ideals to those nations.
as far as vietnam, it was basically a flare up of the larger Cold War, we were indeed fighting Communist China in that war by proxy. There was a reason after all that JFK and LBJ felt the need to go in there. It wasn’t like they just wanted to drop some bombs. There was a very distinct larger strategy at work and while the immediate objectives of stopping the North Vietnamese, the VietCong and the Khamer Rouge failed, the conflict did check the spread of communism into the other south east nations of Malyasia, the Phillipines, Singapore etc and sped their own development into the non-communist fold.
LOL I saw Chris Rock on Bill Maher a couple of days ago and he was comparing Obama’s Healthcare to First class flight situation. Rich people pay premium for first class to go in style and not sit next to average folks and then here comes someone that got bumped from coach to first class but didn’t pay for it. So the rich people get pissed off that they are given the same seat but didn’t folk anything over. The way the airlines remedy the situation, they shove booze in them and get everyone liquored up so they don’t care anymore.
final post regarding the vietnam conflict since it brings to light the role of media and perception that tyburg and I were debating earlier.
it is well understood by military historians that the US did not lose a single battle in that conflict.
rather it was the perception at home, stoked by activists, that finally forced President Nixon to withdraw from that conflict.
Walter Conkrite’s personal assessment of the Tet offensive was a key turning point. He was the nation’s most trusted man at the time, for better or worse. It is telling however that he later came out as a lifelong left leaning individual. by his own admission.
We cannot underestimate the role of “perception” in the nation’s politics. there is simply no objective truth in newsreporting unfortunately.
I loooove Chris Rock!
I had the fortunate pleasure of seeing him many times in NYC comedy clubs when he was working out material for that Special. I think it was in 2006.
Today is the Anniversary of the 2009 Bear Market Low for the S&P 500.
Hiya Randi, how they hangin’?
Mr. B…you should start a politics thread…throw out a different subject each day and let people post away…It would generate a lot of hits/posts. If it were separate from the OT, many more folks would likely participate in the discussion instead of just us regulars.
Like Chris Rock said: I’m not afraid of Al Queada. I’m afraid of AL CRACKER.
Posted by: East New York at March 9, 2010 11:43 AM
Tee hee hee! I love when CR talks politics 🙂 Gotta get my hands on his latest standup for HBO.
bxgrl,
no one here has agrued that war in any form is good.
what is being argued is the role of the united states in the world and the inherent “imperialism” that goes with the attempts overt and covert to spread democratic ideals to those nations.
as far as vietnam, it was basically a flare up of the larger Cold War, we were indeed fighting Communist China in that war by proxy. There was a reason after all that JFK and LBJ felt the need to go in there. It wasn’t like they just wanted to drop some bombs. There was a very distinct larger strategy at work and while the immediate objectives of stopping the North Vietnamese, the VietCong and the Khamer Rouge failed, the conflict did check the spread of communism into the other south east nations of Malyasia, the Phillipines, Singapore etc and sped their own development into the non-communist fold.
whazzup losers?