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I totally agree with tybur that subsidized institutions should be responsible in their use of money (and yes, liberal folks, I would include TARP receipient banks in that).
ditto, why not give bing a try? If you’re using firefox, like you should be, you can just add it to the search engine box. I’ve been trying it and it often gets cleaner and better results. Not always.
“What happened to that Bing search engine that Microsoft paid 80 million to promote? Does anyone actaully use it?”
If you have msn as your homepage and don’t type into the google toolbar fast enough, you kind of end up using it by accident. Think that is where most of its hits come from b/c it completely sucks as a search engine.
cmon T6. How can you quantify REAL EFFORT? You’re looking to start a bureaucratic disaster. If all this subsidizing bothers you, why not just take a right-wing approach and stop all subsidies to the arts. That would accomplish what you want a lot easier.
Montrose Morris — I wasn’t trying to respond as if you were picking a fight. I was trying to be clear that how much someone is “worth” is not my beef — but rather how much an organization feels they *need* to pay people.
It’s nice to see that East New Yrok approaches all of these discussion with such a black-and-white mentality that misses the whole point of the discussion. “you’re “worth” whatever you can get or whatever someone is willing to pay you. Case closed. Some people find this hard to understand.”
I think it’s interesting that ENY doesn’t undertstand that in many cases it is US, the taxpayer, that is paying this person. Our government is subsidizing the Yankees. Our government is subsidizing the Opera. Our government is subsidizing the stage manager that is “worth” $500,000. This is OUR money.
I argue that WE should stop paying these subsidies until these organizations can prove that they are taking REAL EFFORT for contain spiraling costs increases… and that they are taking REAL EFFORT to provide the product or service to SOCIETY AT LARGE that they promised by accepting these subsidies. I want the Opera and the Ballet at Lincoln Center to receive money from the government…. however, not simply to allow them to spend it in an irresponsible manner.
Would we stand for paying the Governor a $5 million salary? What if he is “worth” $5 million? He made $30 million a year in industry… there’s no way we can attract the most qualified governor unless we can pay at least $5 million. Right?
As long as the stage manager at the Opera House is being subsidized by the taxpayer… these types of questions should be asked. Is that extra 10% of awesome worth paying someone $250,000 more than someone that is 90% awesome.
“Our subway stop was shut down, I got caught in a bottleneck at one of those metal barricades, everyone angry, shoving, trying to get to work or wherever…”
Yeah Noki, worse than St. Patty’s day today. All the suburbanites in town doing things they can’t do within a mile of their own house.
“ENY, I bought you “The Clapper” for Christmas. (“Clap on! Clap off! The clapper.”)”
Thanks, Car Gar. They way the Yanks are set up, I’ll be doing a lot of clapping the next couple of years.
M4L, it’s not my job to work deals for the Yanks, and I’m not a finance guy like you. So I don’t go to the level of detail you do, i.e., figuring out how much money the Yanks will spend. I look at it from the baseball angle, which is probably just as reliable, considering the Yankees stick to the script by making a real effort EACH year to win it all. So in that sense, the Yanks will spend whatever it takes to make the team at least as good as this year’s and if there is a clear stud out there (i.e., John Lackey, who I expect the Yanks to target) the Yanks will probably pay what it takes to get him and make the money part work.
I really don’t get you folks who worry about how much Derek Jeter, Wall Streeters, etc. make. Who gives a sh*t? You make whatever you can get, period. I don’t go around worrying about how much the other guy’s got. I just concentrate on how much I can get, and go after it. Much simpler that way.
I totally agree with tybur that subsidized institutions should be responsible in their use of money (and yes, liberal folks, I would include TARP receipient banks in that).
ditto, why not give bing a try? If you’re using firefox, like you should be, you can just add it to the search engine box. I’ve been trying it and it often gets cleaner and better results. Not always.
“What happened to that Bing search engine that Microsoft paid 80 million to promote? Does anyone actaully use it?”
If you have msn as your homepage and don’t type into the google toolbar fast enough, you kind of end up using it by accident. Think that is where most of its hits come from b/c it completely sucks as a search engine.
cmon T6. How can you quantify REAL EFFORT? You’re looking to start a bureaucratic disaster. If all this subsidizing bothers you, why not just take a right-wing approach and stop all subsidies to the arts. That would accomplish what you want a lot easier.
Montrose Morris — I wasn’t trying to respond as if you were picking a fight. I was trying to be clear that how much someone is “worth” is not my beef — but rather how much an organization feels they *need* to pay people.
It’s nice to see that East New Yrok approaches all of these discussion with such a black-and-white mentality that misses the whole point of the discussion. “you’re “worth” whatever you can get or whatever someone is willing to pay you. Case closed. Some people find this hard to understand.”
I think it’s interesting that ENY doesn’t undertstand that in many cases it is US, the taxpayer, that is paying this person. Our government is subsidizing the Yankees. Our government is subsidizing the Opera. Our government is subsidizing the stage manager that is “worth” $500,000. This is OUR money.
I argue that WE should stop paying these subsidies until these organizations can prove that they are taking REAL EFFORT for contain spiraling costs increases… and that they are taking REAL EFFORT to provide the product or service to SOCIETY AT LARGE that they promised by accepting these subsidies. I want the Opera and the Ballet at Lincoln Center to receive money from the government…. however, not simply to allow them to spend it in an irresponsible manner.
Would we stand for paying the Governor a $5 million salary? What if he is “worth” $5 million? He made $30 million a year in industry… there’s no way we can attract the most qualified governor unless we can pay at least $5 million. Right?
As long as the stage manager at the Opera House is being subsidized by the taxpayer… these types of questions should be asked. Is that extra 10% of awesome worth paying someone $250,000 more than someone that is 90% awesome.
“I don’t go around worrying about how much the other guy’s got. ”
Thats a healthy attitude.
“I don’t go around worrying about how much the other guy’s got. I just concentrate on how much I can get, and go after it. Much simpler that way.”
Yeah ENY. T6 wants to be the next pay and tax czar. Everyone makes too much and pays too little in taxes according to him.
“Our subway stop was shut down, I got caught in a bottleneck at one of those metal barricades, everyone angry, shoving, trying to get to work or wherever…”
Yeah Noki, worse than St. Patty’s day today. All the suburbanites in town doing things they can’t do within a mile of their own house.
“ENY, I bought you “The Clapper” for Christmas. (“Clap on! Clap off! The clapper.”)”
Thanks, Car Gar. They way the Yanks are set up, I’ll be doing a lot of clapping the next couple of years.
M4L, it’s not my job to work deals for the Yanks, and I’m not a finance guy like you. So I don’t go to the level of detail you do, i.e., figuring out how much money the Yanks will spend. I look at it from the baseball angle, which is probably just as reliable, considering the Yankees stick to the script by making a real effort EACH year to win it all. So in that sense, the Yanks will spend whatever it takes to make the team at least as good as this year’s and if there is a clear stud out there (i.e., John Lackey, who I expect the Yanks to target) the Yanks will probably pay what it takes to get him and make the money part work.
I really don’t get you folks who worry about how much Derek Jeter, Wall Streeters, etc. make. Who gives a sh*t? You make whatever you can get, period. I don’t go around worrying about how much the other guy’s got. I just concentrate on how much I can get, and go after it. Much simpler that way.