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  1. townhouselady,
    I hear you. So I will through out this question:

    does the 7, 8, 9 month fetus have rights as a human being?

    no need to answer. just further illustrating the point to 11217 about how our concepts can change on both sides, and they don’t necessarily denote “ignorance”.

  2. China and India are laughing at us on this matter. benson is right about the fact that this puts one more shackle on industry.

    It seems that those who have been arguing the loudest against the US corporations shipping jobs overseas and the plight of the US worker are the ones who are arguing the loudest for these issues that will further push industry offshore.

  3. “It’s like being sober and meeting up with your friends who have all been drinking for 5-6 hours.”

    QOTD, Dave! And from now on this is how I describe the OT to strangers.

  4. So, is the rising temperatures of OTHER planets in the solar system caused by pollution on earth?
    Sounds more logical to say that sun spot activity is causing this. The sun IS getting hotter as solar flare/sun spot activity has INCREASED since 1980.
    Solar activity was at an all time recorded LOW between 1940-1980 , a time of record cold temps. Some of us old enough to remember might recall the “global cooling” hysteria of the 70’s (for people my age, I shit you not , Google it).

    from Wikipedia

    Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth’s surface and atmosphere along with a posited commencement of glaciation.

  5. Gore has made a killing on his investments in green tech.. That is why he is hellbent on telling everyone to go green.. I would do the same if I was going to make 100 million plus on green investments.. Biff has a point, I would rather reduce the our carbon footprint… Just in case those models are correct.

  6. “Maybe some of this “modeling” would have been helpful before we invaded Iraq…?”

    11217, it seems we’re on the same page politically with virtually every issue discussed.

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