CB6 Tackles Noisy Bars
This past Monday, Community Board Six addressed the growing number of quality of life complaints (noise, backyard use, smoking, and overcrowding) associated with the growing number of bars and restaurants in the area, with places like 4th Avenue’s Mission Dolores called out for their outdoor patio noise. Pardon Me for Asking attended the meeting and…
This past Monday, Community Board Six addressed the growing number of quality of life complaints (noise, backyard use, smoking, and overcrowding) associated with the growing number of bars and restaurants in the area, with places like 4th Avenue’s Mission Dolores called out for their outdoor patio noise. Pardon Me for Asking attended the meeting and reported on some commonly forgotten, and often broken, laws: bars and restaurants must keep doors and windows closed at all times to prevent noise from escaping, only 25 percent of an establishment’s outdoor area can have smoking, and places cannot exceed a capacity of 75 people, unless they have a Plan of Assembly Permit. Good to know. Representatives from Sanitation, Fire, State Liquor and Environmental Protection were unanimous in their suggestion that disgruntled neighbors file their complaints through 311.
4th Ave has a lot of potential to get some really interesting spots. hopefully the community board doesn’t get all gangsta like the ones in downtown manhattan.
community boards have WAY too much power when it comes to businesses getting liquor licenses
Rob, I’m starting to think those folks just didn’t like you!
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And since the new Bowery offshoot, Rock Bar or whatever is moving in next door, it will be double the fun.
i went there too, just last sunday, and it was absolutely HORRIBLE. the most bland group of people i EVER saw. maybe cuz it was a sunday afternoon tho?
*rob*
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Cattyshack did not close the outdoor space at 10! I sat out there many times until 3 am smoking my heart (lungs) out!
well maybe they told me that so i’d leave? 🙁
*rob*
“I don’t know how the people who live near Mission Dolores can hear the sound of people at night anyway…you know…with the sound of TRUCKS and FIREENGINES barreling down 4th Avenue all night long.”
I’ve always wondered the same thing! Welcome back by the way 🙂
Love Mission Dolores and I find the entire controversy ridiculous since it was most certainly loud when it was Cattyshack before that…for years.
I don’t know how the people who live near Mission Dolores can hear the sound of people at night anyway…you know…with the sound of TRUCKS and FIREENGINES barreling down 4th Avenue all night long. I mean really, this is just a case of sour grapes that these folks were too stupid not to check into the area where they were moving beforehand and now think they own the place.
And since the new Bowery offshoot, Rock Bar or whatever is moving in next door, it will be double the fun.
If they can come to an understanding at Union Hall (which is on a very quiet and mostly residential block) then they should be able to here on what has always been basically a highway.
It would be like moving right next to the BQE and then complaining to the city about car noise.
Chalk this up to another reason why people are hesitant to open anything besides Banh Mi places in Park Slope
I must be a marshmallow cuz i think Mission Dolores is great. When I was there the outside area didn’t seem unreasonably loud.
Ditto on what InsertSnappyNameHere said. Although they did have someone who’s job it was to walk around to people on the patio who were talking and shushing them. Not that it did much good.
I remember looking at the construction of the building going on right next door and thinking how much it would suck to live there right next to a bar. There has to be some kind of grandfather rule – if a developer builds right next to a place that is going to have late night noise and smoke, the tenants have to live with it.
That would seriously suck if they brought back smoking in bars. As it is if I’m in one post 2 am I have to grin and bear it when someone lights up a Gitane.