Friday Links
Blue Angels. Photo by Aaron Meshon. Mortgage Apps Fall Most Since Feb [Chicago Tribune] Powder Coat or Replace? [Apartment Therapy] Another Carwash Bites the Dust [Curbed] Habana Outpost Re-opens Saturday [Ecoeatery.com via Gothamist] Schnack Hot Dog Eating Contest [Newyorkology] It’s the Scale Stupid [Brooklyn Views] Bridezilla Hits Brooklyn [L Magazine] It’s a Bird! It’s a…
Blue Angels. Photo by Aaron Meshon.
Mortgage Apps Fall Most Since Feb [Chicago Tribune]
Powder Coat or Replace? [Apartment Therapy]
Another Carwash Bites the Dust [Curbed]
Habana Outpost Re-opens Saturday [Ecoeatery.com via Gothamist]
Schnack Hot Dog Eating Contest [Newyorkology]
It’s the Scale Stupid [Brooklyn Views]
Bridezilla Hits Brooklyn [L Magazine]
It’s a Bird! It’s a Plane! [Sunny Brooklyn]
The Flatbush Code [Robert Cashill]
Just Sold! [NY Post]
BB, I’m sorry, but your longing for the Nets to be in your back yard has blinded you to reality here. If Ratner had bought the Oshkosh Hurricanes(totally made up name) and moved them to New York, he’d still be building the arena and trying to convince people that it’s a good thing for Brooklyn. The fact that we’ve actually heard of the Nets is only coincidental to the issue.
And I’m sorry, but I really don’t think that the place will be sold out for the next twenty years no matter who is there, unless all tickets are $20 a seat, and that’s not happening. You are totally over estimating the importance of physically attending sporting events for the average jane and joe. Especially in Brooklyn, which in spite of all of the influx of monied people such as yourself, has a much lower per capita income average than suburban New Jersey and even Manhattan.
And whether one should drive or not, mass transit hub or not, it is unreasonable – no, stupid, for any developer to not anticipate and build lots of parking. People do lots of things they shouldn’t, especially when it comes to their vehicles. Gas prices started going up several years ago, that didn’t stop people from buying larger and larger SUV’s. Why should you expect them to not drive them, or any other vehicle?
BTW – been posting since the great troll war as anon and under another name. Still here, though – thanks for wondering.
Oh! sorry! I didn’t realize that good urban planning, expert civil engineering and great architecture were bourgeois. But to enlighten you- my “bourgeois mentality not only goes for the BAM culture, but also theater, books, movies, good restaurants, museums and open parks. If you ar willing to give up all of that to simply have an arena, then the level of your mentality is far below bourgeois.
Having major sports team located in ones city is a positive – whether its the Yanks in the Bronx, Mets in Queens or Knicks in Manhattan. Another team in NYC is good for NY. I’m not a fan but have no problem with arena at Flatbush Avenue. Adds to mix and vibrancy of the area. Or is the BAM cultural district only appropriate entertainment for your bourgeois mentality?
Brownbomber- I am in awe of those arguments. I have never read anything so full of crap in my life. First of all, what makes you think most of Brooklyn even cares about the Nets? Wishful thinking on your part, but it doesn’t make it so.The fact is the project IS being shoved down our throats, and the only reason the Nets are coming to Brooklyn is because Ratner’s ego demands he own a team and he wants it here. There was never any decision- oh yeah! let’s go to Brooklyn because we’ll make more money- it happened because Ratner bought the team. It’s kinda funny you calling someone else’s statement stupid when yours are delusional.
“With that being said, I support the removal of all parking provisions at the arena. If you can’t figure out a way to get to the games via mass transit, then you’re probably too stupid to be driving a car anyway.”
Delusional, schizophrenic and ignorant of the state of mass transit in the outer boroughs. The AY hub is not the problem. It’s the fact that the subway lines are few and far between the further out you go. If you know how to read, look at a subway map.
“Low rise neighborhoods in Manhattan are surrounded by large scale buildings. It’s part of New York’s charm and uniqueness. Brooklyn should be no exception. Get over it.”
On the contrary, the difference between Brooklyn and Manhattan is what makes Brooklyn unique and full of charm. What you advocate will ruin it. You need to get over your Nets fit- No one is screaming for the Nets to come here except people like you who only care about sports and nothing else.And puhleeze! Don’t use the “how will we house all the people” argument to try to trick us into believing you only have Brooklyn’s best interest at heart. Your posting set that straight in a hurry.
I believe they are speaking duck.
“We don’t believe that making the world “better†requires using public subsidies to bail out the purchase of an NBA team (a team that pays players upwards of $10 million each), build a sports venue for 18 to 20 thousand fans and provide parking for 4,000 cars, so they don’t lose their New Jersey fan base, at one of the most congested intersections in Brooklyn – an existing choke-point for traveling between Brooklyn and Manhattan – on the back of affordable housing and the existing scale of a neighborhood.”
He had me until this very stupid statement. First, Brooklyn wants the Nets and the arena and that’s the primary reason why the franchise will be relocating to Kings County and why the arena will be built on this very site. Ratner, Bloomberg, Pataki or Marty are not shoving this project down the public’s throat. The entire borough, with the exceptions of a few anti-development hardliners, eagerly awaits the Brooklyn Nets’ arrival. It’s been fifty years since the departure of the Brooklyn Dodgers and it’s about time that we had our own sport franchise!! We deserve it!!! Second, why does it matter how much the team pays these athletes? Every idiot knows the team is not broke so what’s the news? Brooklyn is just a more lucrative location for the franchise then the swamplands of Jersey. Third, the Nets are not putting in parking to preserve their existing Jersey fan base. Brooklyn has over $3million residents and the team readily acknowledges that the franchise move would probably result in a dramatic shift in the teams traditional fan base. Quite simply, without a single jersey fan at the game, the Brooklyn Nets will be sold out every single game for the next 20 years! Every executive in the league knows this and many team owners wish that they could be in Brooklyn. With that being said, I support the removal of all parking provisions at the arena. If you can’t figure out a way to get to the games via mass transit, then you’re probably too stupid to be driving a car anyway.
Yes, the design of the complex is flawed and should be changed significantly. However, I’m not certain about the scale. We live in a city. Low rise neighborhoods in Manhattan are surrounded by large scale buildings. It’s part of New York’s charm and uniqueness. Brooklyn should be no exception. Get over it.
Re: Just Sold–notice that the outer borough houses are selling below listing–the market is undenaibly soft at the edges and I personally hope it softens through the middle of brownstone Brooklyn. I’d like to see some renting families buy rather than leave Brooklyn.
Excellent?
“The oft stated canard.” ?
What language is this person speaking?
Agreed!!